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Old 09-08-2005, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by steve c,Sep 6 2005, 03:47 PM
Your opinion based on zero actual information?
My opinion based on MUCH information is that you are a d!ck. Have a little respect when you post. Hiding behind a computer brings out the sh!t slinger in many people. If you don't have the balls to say it to my face (and I highly doubt that you do), don't post it. That being said, the fact remains, in my opinion, that I would rather deal with the 993's problems than with the 996's.

Contrary to what was mentioned above, RMS failures have not been "fixed" by Porsche. Many cars need more than one repair. I like Porsches. I have been researching 993's for the past year in the hopes of finding a good example. However my opinions (that is what they are) stand.
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My opinion based on MUCH information is that you are a d!ck. Have a little respect when you post. Hiding behind a computer brings out the sh!t slinger in many people. If you don't have the balls to say it to my face (and I highly doubt that you do), don't post it. That being said, the fact remains, in my opinion, that I would rather deal with the 993's problems than with the 996's.
And mine is that you are a clueless shit talker. Now put away your e-peen guy. If anything I am even more brutal in real life -- you can bet that if you said something stupid there I would tell you about it.

The reality is that the 996 is a better put together more sorted vehicle. The statistics bear this out.

RMS failures have not been "fixed" by Porsche. Many cars need more than one repair.
Never known this to happen -- I suppose anything is possible -- but what you are not mentioning is that you can buy a complete remanfucatured 996 motor with accessories for 8-10k directly from Porsche. The same 993 motor will run you 25k+
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Even if you don't accept Rennlist as a statistical sample, there are 996 owners I've met in the Bay Area who have had multiple RMS failures, and multiple engine swaps, in their late model 996's. Porsche hasn't fixed the problem, either, as it is showing up in 997's. Someone on Rennlist was investigating a class action suit and found that PNA was doing something like 20 RMS-related engine replacements per month in California alone. Now this would include 986 + 996 but it's not an anomaly in the space-time continuum.

Originally Posted by steve c,Sep 8 2005, 12:49 PM
Never known this to happen -- I suppose anything is possible -- but what you are not mentioning is that you can buy a complete remanfucatured 996 motor with accessories for 8-10k directly from Porsche. The same 993 motor will run you 25k+
It is not uncommon. Besides, you shouldn't have to get a new f*cking motor after 20k miles, whether it's covered by warranty or not! Are you nuts?
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Odd that the turbos and GT3's which use the 993 bottom end rarely suffer from the problem ...
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Originally Posted by steve c,Sep 8 2005, 07:39 PM
Odd that the turbos and GT3's which use the 993 bottom end rarely suffer from the problem ...
Well, they still use handmade engines derived from the m64 block, don't they (as opposed to the mass-produced m96 motor found in the others)? It's evident that they are simply built with much more care. Although it now seems that GT3's do indeed come down with RMS leaks too, the miles that are put on TT's and GT3's on average is far less than for the plebian Carerras. I see 04 GT3's that have 2,000 miles on them, such a waste.

993's sometimes get RMS problems, too, at least from what I hear. But as others might have said - the big one for 993's is CEL / clogged secondary air injectors causing a check engine light and thus failing road inspection. Then there is the valve guide wear. Both require an engine drop (although you can cheat and reset the CEL with an OBD scanner) and silly amounts of $$$.
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RMS = ???
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Wow
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Originally Posted by vroom,Sep 9 2005, 04:23 AM
Sad really since I view my S2000 more as a tool than a car I really love.
I totally agree. The 993 would be ideal, but the S2k is so competitive that its hard to let go.

Maybe a 993 AND the S wuld be a good compromise...
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Thr S u will never regret ...the other 993 u might
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Originally Posted by Saint_Spinner,Aug 30 2005, 04:21 PM
chicks dig the porsche badge
and are clueless , i know i was driving behide one


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