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HawkeyeGeoff 05-22-2018 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by ZDan (Post 24462131)
If Mazdaspeeds have plummeted in value, that means it makes MORE financial sense to go Mazdaspeed. Terrible resale value means buying a used one is a good deal!

I never understand the argument against buying a particular *used* car because the resale is terrible. That is exactly why you should buy it!

FWIW, wife's '01 Mazda3 (n.a.) is at 195k miles, it has held up remarkably well and is still fun to drive. It did require new struts/shocks a couple of years ago but really happy with the KYB replacements.

Yeah. In those years = it was a Ford with a Mazda chassis basically.

CMK 05-22-2018 10:06 AM

Kind of like how the old Escort everyone liked was on the Mazda B platform.

SimoGver08 05-22-2018 08:30 PM

Funny thing is that my daily is currently an 05 Mazda 3 S hatchback. The first gen Mazda 3 will always be my favorite generation for the exterior design. It's been holding up fantastically at 102K, and it's a great car for commuting. After the ST tho, I miss having boost on my daily commutes.

SimoGver08 05-23-2018 09:41 PM

I did it. After a lot of negotiation between two dealerships, I purchased a GTI SE in Pure White with the DSG. Barely came home from the dealer a few hours ago. I'll try and get pics posted up in these next couple of days.

CMK 05-24-2018 04:16 AM

Normally I don't like white but something about a white GTI is just spot-on. I think it's the contrast with the black and red trim.

SimoGver08 05-24-2018 05:49 AM

I live on a dirt road so anything dark in color was an automatic deal breaker. I already have my S in Berlina Black and that's enough to maintain living in the New Mexican desert lol. Plus, I didn't like the White Silver Metallic color. Here are a couple of pics. Those windows need some tint...

https://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c...8/IMG_0054.jpg

https://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c...8/IMG_0052.jpg

TheDonEffect 05-24-2018 07:25 AM

Looks great man! What kind of deal did you get on it?

SimoGver08 05-24-2018 08:46 AM

They gave me the car itself for $29k + TTL. I've seen them sell better in other regions, but it's been the average here in Albuquerque. They gave me WAY more than I was wanting for my Mazda 3 trade. Was able to deal for $27k OTD. Even got the 0.9 APR for 60 months from VW.

GTflyer0116 05-24-2018 09:00 AM

I own both a 2018 GTI S with the DSG and a 2002 Honda S2000. The GTI has been a perfectly daily. I went with the DSG just because my wife and I plan to use the GTI for long trips and I already get the fun factor of the manual out of the S2000. The GTI excels in everyday practicality and space, useable loads of torque on the commute, and the quiet and comfortable nature of the cabin. If you are looking for pure fun factor, then the MS3 might be your better option. If you want a warranty and a fun do-it-all car, get the GTI. I highly recommend the GTI as a daily.

vader1 05-24-2018 09:29 AM

Nice choice. I was thinking about exactly the same car for a new daily. I have driven the manual R and it was not worth the extra coin over the GTI with a manual. Still need to try the DSG R before I decide.

As for the manual in the GTI or the R, IMHO, the DSG is better suited to the car, and I am pretty much a manual or nothing guy. The reason I say this is that the manual is geared SUPER tall. I think they do 73 MPH in second gear. The redline is also pretty low on the engine, but the power comes on at the top of the rev range. Unless you are always driving it like you stole it, in first and second gear, you wait out the turbo lag, get a rush of power, immediately hit the limiter and shift. All the joy of working the gear box is taken away from the tall gearing and low redline. With shorter gearing it would not look as good on paper, but would be a lot more fun to work in traffic. The DSG just keeps the car in the powerband and shifts instantly. The manual shifts fine, and the feel is OK, but is pretty joyless the way it is set up.


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