2007 CBR600RR
Originally Posted by Amit,Sep 7 2006, 12:05 PM
I I've seen them. I think it looks great. Now I just gotta decide on a color.
pros: 341lb dry weight, E-steering damper, more HP, styling.
cons: no slipper clutch, poor color schemes, price probably too high.
Edit: be sure to check out the U.K. site for better pics and info. Also theres is a link to a good article with pics on 600rr.net
So what do you think kekoa, gonna cop one or what?
pros: 341lb dry weight, E-steering damper, more HP, styling.
cons: no slipper clutch, poor color schemes, price probably too high.
Edit: be sure to check out the U.K. site for better pics and info. Also theres is a link to a good article with pics on 600rr.net
So what do you think kekoa, gonna cop one or what?
I also want a ducati monster
wow they really ****ed up the new 600rr. its gross. the only thing they got right is trying to make the front end look like the R6
but they ****ed that up too. they got the vent right that was about it. and the side lower fairings look like they were taken straight off an 04+ R1....
but they ****ed that up too. they got the vent right that was about it. and the side lower fairings look like they were taken straight off an 04+ R1....
im dissappointed in the new 600rr
slipper clutch is the most important upgrade that i wanted to have in the 07, as a matter of fact...i had no doubt in my mind that the 07 would comes with slipper clutch seeing that every competitor has them, but i guess i was wrong
raised the handlebar 10mm? what were they thinking!!! this is not an F4i!!!
fairing designs? not so hot either...mid fairings look like a gixxer
taillight in rear fender? who the hell design this thing?!
what about waved rotors???
but the good thing is that the bike is lighter, makes more power, and have the electronic steering damper
looks like i will be keeping my 06 for a while now
slipper clutch is the most important upgrade that i wanted to have in the 07, as a matter of fact...i had no doubt in my mind that the 07 would comes with slipper clutch seeing that every competitor has them, but i guess i was wrong
raised the handlebar 10mm? what were they thinking!!! this is not an F4i!!!
fairing designs? not so hot either...mid fairings look like a gixxer
taillight in rear fender? who the hell design this thing?!
what about waved rotors???
but the good thing is that the bike is lighter, makes more power, and have the electronic steering damper
looks like i will be keeping my 06 for a while now
Originally Posted by minh,Sep 7 2006, 04:04 PM
im dissappointed in the new 600rr
slipper clutch is the most important upgrade that i wanted to have in the 07, as a matter of fact...i had no doubt in my mind that the 07 would comes with slipper clutch seeing that every competitor has them, but i guess i was wrong
raised the handlebar 10mm? what were they thinking!!! this is not an F4i!!!
fairing designs? not so hot either...mid fairings look like a gixxer
taillight in rear fender? who the hell design this thing?!
what about waved rotors???
but the good thing is that the bike is lighter, makes more power, and have the electronic steering damper
looks like i will be keeping my 06 for a while now
slipper clutch is the most important upgrade that i wanted to have in the 07, as a matter of fact...i had no doubt in my mind that the 07 would comes with slipper clutch seeing that every competitor has them, but i guess i was wrong
raised the handlebar 10mm? what were they thinking!!! this is not an F4i!!!
fairing designs? not so hot either...mid fairings look like a gixxer
taillight in rear fender? who the hell design this thing?!
what about waved rotors???
but the good thing is that the bike is lighter, makes more power, and have the electronic steering damper
looks like i will be keeping my 06 for a while now
The definitive answer for you all is here: -
http://www.honda.co.uk/newcontender/
Official UK pictures
http://www.honda.co.uk/newcontender/
Official UK pictures
OK guys, sorry if I got off subject a little. I spent some rough weekends at race tracks. The last year my husband raced in WERA was the worst...but the most fun. We spent $800 on tires one weekend.
I ride but I'm not the racer...he was recently. Sorry if I came across as a smack talker. I'm 44 and have spent some serious time at the race track and in our garage getting bikes ready to race. My husband's best racing buds raced Hondas BTW. OK...where I'm coming from: The set up on Hondas is harder. It's about suspension....
Suzukis can be set up faster with less money. To get to Honda's racing level will take more money and time. I guess I need to clarify that I'm talking about AMA Superbike set up. In WERA Expert there is a great deal of cherry picking. Most of the guys that grid up are racing in top ten down in AMA....so you have to set up that way...pain.
Besides all my experience in racing...I'm a Suzuki rider...but the S2000 is the closest thing to a motorcycle hands down. Honda wins in that corner with me.
Honda makes an excellent sportbike. It's pretty like the S and a good bike...buy it if it turns you on. Sorry to plug in my personal racing experience. That's just me...hope you guys can get use to it.
-Suzi
I ride but I'm not the racer...he was recently. Sorry if I came across as a smack talker. I'm 44 and have spent some serious time at the race track and in our garage getting bikes ready to race. My husband's best racing buds raced Hondas BTW. OK...where I'm coming from: The set up on Hondas is harder. It's about suspension....Suzukis can be set up faster with less money. To get to Honda's racing level will take more money and time. I guess I need to clarify that I'm talking about AMA Superbike set up. In WERA Expert there is a great deal of cherry picking. Most of the guys that grid up are racing in top ten down in AMA....so you have to set up that way...pain.
Besides all my experience in racing...I'm a Suzuki rider...but the S2000 is the closest thing to a motorcycle hands down. Honda wins in that corner with me.
Honda makes an excellent sportbike. It's pretty like the S and a good bike...buy it if it turns you on. Sorry to plug in my personal racing experience. That's just me...hope you guys can get use to it. -Suzi
Originally Posted by integrate,Sep 7 2006, 03:00 AM
Every sportbike out there comes "race ready" and them being on a GSXR isn't going to make them faster than they would on a R6 or 600RR. Do you also really think most people get GSXRs because of the contingency money? Racers also have GSXRs in WERA/Willow/etc only because of the contingency. They can all go fast on any bike. Plenty of my friends still raced other bikes.
I used to have a 600RR race bike, which I converted myself and wasn't hard by any means. I don't know what you mean by "easy to convert." So if you can, please elaborate.
When Suzuki owns MotoGP or the WSBK series, then we talk.
I used to have a 600RR race bike, which I converted myself and wasn't hard by any means. I don't know what you mean by "easy to convert." So if you can, please elaborate.
When Suzuki owns MotoGP or the WSBK series, then we talk.
Where did you race? Who passed you in tech? WERA? CCS? AMA?
Originally Posted by MotoSuzi,Sep 8 2006, 06:22 AM
Suzi's husband Roy here, please forgive her she is a great gal and knows her stuff pretty good when it comes to two wheel racing. She has spent some quality time at local racetracks in the last 4 years so she speaks mostly the truth. As fo me I'll share a little info:
Yes they do primarily buy suzuki's at the club racing level because of the contingency money. It is a known fact a Honda is much harder to convert to a racebike, have you done both? well I have seen/done both and can tell you I will take a Suzuki anyday to prep over a Honda. A honda is much harder to get the chassis numbers correct also the pro link on the rear being the primary culprit. Without the sweet numbers on the chassis your chasing a ghost and eating tires. Just go to a club racing weekend and go to a suspension tuner he'll tell you the straight up story "a Suzuki is much easier to set up,,period" and in the end will cost you less money. The honda, yamaha and kawi are all very good motorcycles and in the end it will always come down to the riders talent as to which one comes out on top. I've been on the other side of the fence and for me my money has to go with a Suzuki if I am racing.
Another incorrect statement was concerning WSBK: Suzuki is the current #1 plate holder in World Superbike last year the GSX-R1000 won just about every race with Troy Corser, this year they have had their problems. Ducati will rein supreme this year in WSBK. As for the AMA series Arron Yates won the Superstock championship last year for Suzuki, Yamah detroned them this year with Jamie Hacking. AMA superbike is not a bring what you have a affair they have rules, internal trannys cannot be changed from stock, stock injectors must be used and they must obey minimal weight restrictions. Recently traction control was made legal but a few of the top teams had already been experimenting with fuel mapping to create a traction control which by its terms was deemed legal before the new offical ruling. As for MotoGP and Suzuki that is a good question I don't think anyone knows exactly what the hell Suzuki is doing there they seem to have been lost ever since the FIM went from two stroke 500's to the current 4 strokes. Mty personal feeling is they should ditch the V-4 concept and do what they do best a inline 4 similar to yamaha and kawi. In the beginning they had trouble trying to perfect a fly by wire electronics on the bike that was way ahead of its time. They have fired the entire GSVR design team this year and brought in the GSXR design team to get the bike up to speed, some of which has worked but now I think you are seeing a problem with the tire brand they are using, Bridgestone. I beleive they would do better at this stage on Michelins.
Back to club racing, a 600 is a 600 nothing to get to aweful excited about I've had a few in the past now if you really want the best of both worlds go buy a 750. Hands down a better streetbike than any 600cc machine.
carry on
Yes they do primarily buy suzuki's at the club racing level because of the contingency money. It is a known fact a Honda is much harder to convert to a racebike, have you done both? well I have seen/done both and can tell you I will take a Suzuki anyday to prep over a Honda. A honda is much harder to get the chassis numbers correct also the pro link on the rear being the primary culprit. Without the sweet numbers on the chassis your chasing a ghost and eating tires. Just go to a club racing weekend and go to a suspension tuner he'll tell you the straight up story "a Suzuki is much easier to set up,,period" and in the end will cost you less money. The honda, yamaha and kawi are all very good motorcycles and in the end it will always come down to the riders talent as to which one comes out on top. I've been on the other side of the fence and for me my money has to go with a Suzuki if I am racing.
Another incorrect statement was concerning WSBK: Suzuki is the current #1 plate holder in World Superbike last year the GSX-R1000 won just about every race with Troy Corser, this year they have had their problems. Ducati will rein supreme this year in WSBK. As for the AMA series Arron Yates won the Superstock championship last year for Suzuki, Yamah detroned them this year with Jamie Hacking. AMA superbike is not a bring what you have a affair they have rules, internal trannys cannot be changed from stock, stock injectors must be used and they must obey minimal weight restrictions. Recently traction control was made legal but a few of the top teams had already been experimenting with fuel mapping to create a traction control which by its terms was deemed legal before the new offical ruling. As for MotoGP and Suzuki that is a good question I don't think anyone knows exactly what the hell Suzuki is doing there they seem to have been lost ever since the FIM went from two stroke 500's to the current 4 strokes. Mty personal feeling is they should ditch the V-4 concept and do what they do best a inline 4 similar to yamaha and kawi. In the beginning they had trouble trying to perfect a fly by wire electronics on the bike that was way ahead of its time. They have fired the entire GSVR design team this year and brought in the GSXR design team to get the bike up to speed, some of which has worked but now I think you are seeing a problem with the tire brand they are using, Bridgestone. I beleive they would do better at this stage on Michelins.
Back to club racing, a 600 is a 600 nothing to get to aweful excited about I've had a few in the past now if you really want the best of both worlds go buy a 750. Hands down a better streetbike than any 600cc machine.
carry on
WSBK-DUCATI
WSS-TEN KATE HONDA/ YAMAHA GERMANY
AMA SUPERBIKE- YOSHIMRA SUZUKI
AMA SUPER STOCK-GRAVES YAMAHA
AMA SUPER SPORT-GRAVES YAMAHA
AMA FORMULA EXTREME- ERION HONDA/GRAVES YAMAHA
I would say its pretty clear this year Suzuki does not own the race track......
and honestly club level racing doesn't really mean anything when talking about true racing and what a bike can do. because if you don't have the means to have the top of every product then your not showing the true potential of the bike. The top tier's of racing are going to push the bike to the highest 10 10th's of the bike's limit.....



