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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Manga_Spawn
I love the gtr. I am hoping when the time comes they will be an affordable choice as another car and that they are similar to the S in the way most people didn't drive them to much. Its hard to argue with the size and weight of the car when it is laying down 0-60 times in the realm of 2.72 sec. When you figure that Veyron Super Sport does 0-60 in 2.4 sec it really shows just how amazing a value the GTR really is. I love it and maybe just maybe that weight is a factor in allowing it to do these things so well.
I wouldn't count on it. The maintenance on that thing once it gets out of warranty could be extremely high especially if you ever were to track it. that was/is the great thing about the S. It's cheap to maintain. What does the GTR have 14-15 inch ceramic brakes and a 20k+ transmission. I would put it up with old ferraris. Cheap to buy in the future maybe, but very expensive to keep running well or track.
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by s2kpdx01
Originally Posted by Manga_Spawn' timestamp='1322766918' post='21202040
I love the gtr. I am hoping when the time comes they will be an affordable choice as another car and that they are similar to the S in the way most people didn't drive them to much. Its hard to argue with the size and weight of the car when it is laying down 0-60 times in the realm of 2.72 sec. When you figure that Veyron Super Sport does 0-60 in 2.4 sec it really shows just how amazing a value the GTR really is. I love it and maybe just maybe that weight is a factor in allowing it to do these things so well.
I wouldn't count on it. The maintenance on that thing once it gets out of warranty could be extremely high especially if you ever were to track it. that was/is the great thing about the S. It's cheap to maintain. What does the GTR have 14-15 inch ceramic brakes and a 20k+ transmission. I would put it up with old ferraris. Cheap to buy in the future maybe, but very expensive to keep running well or track.
This, Manga must not have seen the cost of the brakes and fluid changes such as the trans fluid. Nissan pricing to purchase with Ferrari maintenance costs. IIRC it was 1200 for the dealer to change the trans fluid for a guy on nagtroc.
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 05:47 PM
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im sure if you can afford this car, you can afford the maintenance budget? who knows. but that leads me to the next question, who is buying these supercars with automatic transmissons?
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by s2kpdx01
Originally Posted by Manga_Spawn' timestamp='1322766918' post='21202040
I love the gtr. I am hoping when the time comes they will be an affordable choice as another car and that they are similar to the S in the way most people didn't drive them to much. Its hard to argue with the size and weight of the car when it is laying down 0-60 times in the realm of 2.72 sec. When you figure that Veyron Super Sport does 0-60 in 2.4 sec it really shows just how amazing a value the GTR really is. I love it and maybe just maybe that weight is a factor in allowing it to do these things so well.
I wouldn't count on it. The maintenance on that thing once it gets out of warranty could be extremely high especially if you ever were to track it. that was/is the great thing about the S. It's cheap to maintain. What does the GTR have 14-15 inch ceramic brakes and a 20k+ transmission. I would put it up with old ferraris. Cheap to buy in the future maybe, but very expensive to keep running well or track.
totally. The GTR will always be a 90,000 car when it comes to repairs. You'll pay through the nose to keep an old one running.
Also, I believe it is pretty widely accepted that Nissan toyed with the business model to get the price down to give the perception of value...ie they put hard limits on warranties, use of launch control (now repealed of course), hugely expensive parts, frequent maintenance intervals, claim denials, etc. It is the complete opposite of say a GT3 that Porsche built for the track and openly encourages you to track the car.

I like the car; would never buy one as at that price, I don't really care if it is a good value, I don't really care if it is just a hair slower than a veyron to 60...I just car that I'm in love with the car...and I'm just not in love with the GTR.
It is absolutely a performer, though.
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dombey
totally. The GTR will always be a 90,000 car when it comes to repairs. You'll pay through the nose to keep an old one running.
I think it will have the mechanical costs of much more expensive car. I wouldn't be surprised if it's on par with ferrari as it ages.
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 07:37 PM
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2.3g in the corner with Nissan seeing 2.8g on the Nurburgring? That's an awfully high spike, considering most cars won't generate much more than 2.0g on sudden turn in. 0.8g higher is 40% more!

That's simply not possible. Lateral G's are 90% tires. There's no street tire that can exceed 1.1G on a car that's 3800lb. You'd need ridiculous banking well beyond what you'll see on any race track to reach 2.3G, much less 2.8. It's important to note they didn't say sustained values of 2.3G. Instant values will vary wildly, but aren't too important.
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tantheman
I love the GT-R.
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tarheel91
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2.3g in the corner with Nissan seeing 2.8g on the Nurburgring? That's an awfully high spike, considering most cars won't generate much more than 2.0g on sudden turn in. 0.8g higher is 40% more!

That's simply not possible. Lateral G's are 90% tires. There's no street tire that can exceed 1.1G on a car that's 3800lb. You'd need ridiculous banking well beyond what you'll see on any race track to reach 2.3G, much less 2.8. It's important to note they didn't say sustained values of 2.3G. Instant values will vary wildly, but aren't too important.
I said a spike so I'm well aware of their claim and how it was phrased. However, even the best street cars (think ZR1) see less than 2.0g for spikes and 1.6g is a much more common number for serious sports cars. The GT-R, at a claimed 2.8g, is WAY higher than anything I've ever heard of or seen, especially on a non-banked turn.

Nissan didn't clarify where (specifically) they saw 2.8g but something like the Carousel in the Nurburgring might allow for a spike that high...
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by sparrow
This, Manga must not have seen the cost of the brakes and fluid changes such as the trans fluid. Nissan pricing to purchase with Ferrari maintenance costs. IIRC it was 1200 for the dealer to change the trans fluid for a guy on nagtroc.
How could it possibly be that expensive? Was it intentionally designed to take DIY out of the equation?

Either way $1200 is beyond rip off territory. No way that job should ever breach $400 and that's being generous.
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by honda606
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This, Manga must not have seen the cost of the brakes and fluid changes such as the trans fluid. Nissan pricing to purchase with Ferrari maintenance costs. IIRC it was 1200 for the dealer to change the trans fluid for a guy on nagtroc.
How could it possibly be that expensive? Was it intentionally designed to take DIY out of the equation?

Either way $1200 is beyond rip off territory. No way that job should ever breach $400 and that's being generous.
Well the pricing varies from dealer to dealer. But just the oil itself costs $550. I just checked and tranns w/ diff done at the same time has ranged from 1083-1495. With 1083 being an outlier as I see more data points between 1200-1500. One dealer asked for 1995. Remember only certain dealerships are allowed to service GTR's as well. Although there are still way more GTR certified dealers than Ferrari dealers. If I was purchasing a GTR still under warranty I would be taking it to the dealer for service. In the event something happens, they cannot say that I did not use oem oil or anything.
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