2013 GTR
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Originally Posted by dombey' timestamp='1322794159' post='21203257
totally. The GTR will always be a 90,000 car when it comes to repairs. You'll pay through the nose to keep an old one running.
Yeah I understand but its not like any car with this level of performance is ever going to be super cheap to maintain. I would hope with the aftermarket support of these over an old ferrari (or most used performance cars) the maintence could be cheaper in the future and yes cheaper is relative. You have to pay to play right? I can't imagine the maintence on your ACR is dirt cheap. Or say a Porche or AMG Merc or BMW M car. I would put all of those in a similar catagory as these. It will be interesting to see how the car ages because I doubt anyone if putting many miles on them right now.
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Yeah I understand but its not like any car with this level of performance is ever going to be super cheap to maintain. I would hope with the aftermarket support of these over an old ferrari (or most used performance cars) the maintence could be cheaper in the future and yes cheaper is relative. You have to pay to play right? I can't imagine the maintence on your ACR is dirt cheap. Or say a Porche or AMG Merc or BMW M car. I would put all of those in a similar catagory as these. It will be interesting to see how the car ages because I doubt anyone if putting many miles on them right now.
Yeah I understand but its not like any car with this level of performance is ever going to be super cheap to maintain. I would hope with the aftermarket support of these over an old ferrari (or most used performance cars) the maintence could be cheaper in the future and yes cheaper is relative. You have to pay to play right? I can't imagine the maintence on your ACR is dirt cheap. Or say a Porche or AMG Merc or BMW M car. I would put all of those in a similar catagory as these. It will be interesting to see how the car ages because I doubt anyone if putting many miles on them right now.
the transmission is 5k on the acr. The old engine removed, a new one built by arrow racing, and put back in is less then $15k. The rotors are $200/pop. The only place the GTR wins is tire prices....and not by much.
It's also basic stuff. the tranny and diff fluid in the acr is like $30 or something retarded low. And you can do it yourself very easily. My friend who bought a 2010 evo has a transmission that costs twice as much as mine and it needs to be serviced almost 4 times as often and each service is twice as much. I would expect the GTR to be quite a bit more expensive then the evo.
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Well the pricing varies from dealer to dealer. But just the oil itself costs $550. I just checked and tranns w/ diff done at the same time has ranged from 1083-1495. With 1083 being an outlier as I see more data points between 1200-1500. One dealer asked for 1995. Remember only certain dealerships are allowed to service GTR's as well. Although there are still way more GTR certified dealers than Ferrari dealers. If I was purchasing a GTR still under warranty I would be taking it to the dealer for service. In the event something happens, they cannot say that I did not use oem oil or anything.
I agree with you on taking it to the dealer for service based on the transmission history alone, but it pretty much sounds like Nissan is using the GTR as a way to pay back the loyal dealerships that they have allowed to service it in the first place.
Can you find out the brand and specs of this magical mystery gear lube they are using? I'd really love to see the MSDS if possible. Also, how many quarts does the GTR tranny take? I'm trying to figure out how much they are charging per quart for it to get anywhere near $550 for gear lube.
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You guys do realize (I recognize that some of your do) that they are not talking about sustained g forces on a skidpad (read: magazine g forces), right? They are talking about a momentary spike. For the record, I don't believe that this is likely, I'm merely making sure where all on the same page.
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Porsche, MB AMG and BMW M - none of these cars are that pricey to run. My car ownership history covers a P-car, two AMGs and two M3s. Fluid changes and consumables aren't outlandishly costly for any of them. Regular maintenance is MUCH cheaper than the reported GT-R costs. As others have mentioned, GT-R maintenance is beyond the German premium car space and well into the Latin exotic space.
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People complain about maintenance prices as if they are higher than all the comparable competition
I am not saying that a person who can afford a $90k car can't afford to maintain it, but the running cost are much higher, especially if you plan to track it.
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Meh! I think the GTR is a stunning (over) achievement in the bang for buck category but I just can't get past the looks. It's not that it isn't Pininfarina pretty, it's downright homely beside the cars it competes with in price or performance. I'd go so far as to say that Nissan's own 370Z is much better looking. Oh well, 2.8G aside you certainly can't argue with the numbers this porker lays down.
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BTW, my good friend just ordered the new 2013 GT-R, the dealer assured him that the 2 thousand dollar service is not due until 36K miles on the 2012, 2013 GT-R. He has to however change oil, and whatever wears on the car until then which is most probably going to be tires, and brakes.
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index....n-oil-due-now/
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index....n-oil-due-now/
