I've been looking at just about all of the 600 bikes out there. But I'm wondering how much harder these are to ride over say a Ninja 500-650. I've also been looking at used F4i's. But I really want a new bike. I know people say every bike goes down, but to me the extra $2-3k isn't much (relatively) for a bike that I like more and not having to worry whether it was taken care of or not by the previous owner. I mean, good used bikes and entry level bikes still run like $4000-5000. I've been eyeing the GSX-R's/600rr/R6's in particular. I just want to know how much more difficult and "unforgiving" these bikes are over the more beginner and entry level sport bikes. And of the three, which one is the best for a beginner.

FWIW, before I even purchase my bike, I plan on taking MSF.

 

I'm no bike expert by any means... but from what I've researched, I can tell you that a 600 is a bad idea to start on. I'm taking the MSF courses before I start riding and will be starting on a 250 to get used to riding. Everyone says you're better off starting on a less powerful bike so that you are in more control of the bike, as opposed to the bike controlling you.

I would also recommend going used... bike's hold up well and yes you will drop it, so will I. Personally I'd rather drop a used bike that maybe has already been dropped so I don't feel so bad when it does drop. Could you really feel good about purchasing a new bike that you KNOW you will drop? Besides, if you're always so worried about dropping your new bike that's too powerful for a beginner to start with... then how much can you really learn? You won't be willing to really experiment with the bike and learn how to ride properly. I've also been looking at a GSX-R600 and a CBR600RR... but I also know I need to start with a beginner's bike before I get to one of those.

I think you ought to check out www.sportbikes.net . They have a new rider's section on their forums... I've been reading up on it for weeks now, trying to learn everything I can and soak in all the advice I can from experienced riders. Riding can be dangerous and I feel that you can never know too much and everyone will tell you that you're always learning. I read a quote from an MSF instructor on there who said something like: "The day you feel you know everything and have learned everything you can, give me your keys. You'll be a danger to yourself and others."

Anyway, sorry for the long post... just thought I'd share what I've learned so far as a fellow newbie rider. Hopefully an experienced rider can post up more info for you.

 

FurY gave some great points. I'd just like to add that your first bike doesn't have to be your dream bike. If you want a new 600 supersport, that's fine, but it doesn't need to be your first bike.

Get an older used bike. You'll probably drop it, that's okay the older bikes are built alot tougher. Within six months to a year of heavy riding you'll probably be pushing the bike as hard as it can go. That's a really good thing, because it will take you much much longer to get anywhere near the limits of a supersport. You'll be a much better rider because of it. You can sell your used bike for not much less than you paid for it, and you can get your new supersport.

 

SV-650

 

agreed

 

supersport 600s are bbbbaaaadddd starter bikes... I have just started riding on a Ninja 500, btw; after taking the MSF, of course. before I bought my "puny" ninja, i took my friend's GSXr600 for a spin. WHAT A DIFFERENCE. the 600s are built for experienced riders who can control a motorcycle WELL, not for beginners who fumble for controls. when I shifted that thing from gear to gear, I felt like I had a firing shotgun between my legs. a slight twist of the throttle felt like a precursor for a wheelie. stay awwwwaaay from 600s. even a SV650 can be a bit much.
i feel, and many others do, that the Ninja 500 is a GREAT started bike; if you don't like the 80s looks, check out the GS500f - it is a bit slower BTW.
but here is the question: why do you want a 600? are you a good rider, and "need" a better machine? or does everyone have a 600?
remember this: even the "weak" ninja 500 will hit 60 in 3.7 sec, ssooo..

but the most important thing: GET GOOD GEAR, AND WEAR IT ALL THE TIME!!! newenough.com can be useful

 

if you like fallin down then get a bike

 

the SV650 is a standard for a starter bike.

along with looking at these bikes you should also be researching the gear that you will wear? as much as anything what you are wearing will influance your safety. i would spend the money on this, not on the bike itself.

 

no-one likes falling down, dude

i fear a dismount every time I put up the sidestand

people ride bikes to feel the preformance, to "conquer the mechanical beast", to learn a new skill, to conquer a fear... NOONE wants to fall

 

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