BR-Z is...no S2000
they are nice for the price guys, you cant deny that. look at other 25k options and you'll realize that.. however, its true, just because the s2k WAS 40k (in my case) doesnt mean it is now, if u can snag a ap2 s2k for 25k, your looking at almost show room cond and a far better car.
I'm not knocking the toyobaru , but it certainly gives me more appreciation for the engineering that went into the S2000. The ap1 f20c was designed over 12 years ago, it doesn't have variable valve timing, direct injection, or 12.5 CR, yet it still manages to match the current engine in torque and obviously obtains a higher hp ( thanks to rpms). That is saying a lot about our engines. I know people can point to mpg's and emmisions regs, but the F20c is still a marvel.
I'd take a BRZ!!! It's like a practical s2k, with a notch lower in performance (if even that). The small trade off in performance is worth the added day-to-day livability of the BRZ. Not sure if I'd get rid of the s2k for one, but I'd like to add a BRZ to the stable in the very near future.
Never test drove the BR-Z, but I did test drive the Scion FR-S.
The car is tight. It gives the S2000 a run for its money. Especially since the Scion still has warranty.
Practicality - FRS wins
Power - S2000
Handling at sub-100km/h - Very close, but my S2000 is on Hankooks Evo K12s right now.
Transmission - the transmission in the FR-S is weird. If the shifter is close to the gate, the shifter will shift by itself. It feel as if there is a spring pulling the shifter into place. The spring-action makes it weird because its hard to sync my hand/foot movements.
Clutch - FRS had no feeling in the clutch, the car didn't even shake as it was about to stall.
The FR-S is a very capable car, the engineers did a great job. Will I buy one? no because I can't justify spending $12,000 over the S2000, even if the FR-S is new.
The car is tight. It gives the S2000 a run for its money. Especially since the Scion still has warranty.
Practicality - FRS wins
Power - S2000
Handling at sub-100km/h - Very close, but my S2000 is on Hankooks Evo K12s right now.
Transmission - the transmission in the FR-S is weird. If the shifter is close to the gate, the shifter will shift by itself. It feel as if there is a spring pulling the shifter into place. The spring-action makes it weird because its hard to sync my hand/foot movements.
Clutch - FRS had no feeling in the clutch, the car didn't even shake as it was about to stall.
The FR-S is a very capable car, the engineers did a great job. Will I buy one? no because I can't justify spending $12,000 over the S2000, even if the FR-S is new.
i have yet to test drive the brz or frs but i think i would have to agree with OP...which is why reading an article like this makes me that much mroe sadder: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...editorsPicks_5
Not all auto makers, of course, are investing in low-selling image boosters. Honda spokesman Chris Martin says the S2000 stayed in production far longer than Honda had originally planned, but after its sales fell, the company decided to refocus on more fuel efficient models. The current specialty sports-car in Honda's lineup? The CRZ, a two-door hybrid.
"We have a lot of past S2000 customers who ask us regularly to bring out another," says Mr. Martin. But so far, he says, Honda has no plans to revive it.
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Not all auto makers, of course, are investing in low-selling image boosters. Honda spokesman Chris Martin says the S2000 stayed in production far longer than Honda had originally planned, but after its sales fell, the company decided to refocus on more fuel efficient models. The current specialty sports-car in Honda's lineup? The CRZ, a two-door hybrid.
"We have a lot of past S2000 customers who ask us regularly to bring out another," says Mr. Martin. But so far, he says, Honda has no plans to revive it.
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