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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 08:46 PM
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 09:09 PM
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To me the Veyron has nothing to prove. I would do same and see if I can catch up to the Venom. More fun watching from behind.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 11:18 PM
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boo to hennessey. nice car tho
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 03:36 AM
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What is funny is the driver has a helmet, but the passenger doesn't.

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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 05:45 AM
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Maybe the Veyron driver isn't as confident in his skills and we being polite and didn't want to hold the Hennessey up?

Why does it always resort back to testicle size?

Oh yeah, because it makes a "better" story.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 05:54 AM
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The cars are probably pretty even but with all those hay bales and things to run into I wouldn't want to find myself in a position to push my 1 million dollar car harder than I was comfortable with, no shame in letting the other guy go first, it's not a wheel to wheel race. Also, sucks to be a passenger in that venom, the cabin has nothing to hold on to except the seat bottom.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by i_heart_my_DB8
Maybe the Veyron driver isn't as confident in his skills and we being polite and didn't want to hold the Hennessey up?

Why does it always resort back to testicle size?

Oh yeah, because it makes a "better" story.
My thoughts exactly. The owner of the SS is being polite and is made out to look like a pussy.

There was the guy that just posted his S2000 passing a brand new 458. I bet the 458 was backing down from a challenge of a S2000 catching up to it with a 30 second head start.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 08:02 AM
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How would it be fairly even? Once you're above a certain speed the Veyron's AWD traction advantage is gone. Then it's left weighing what, 1500lbs more than the Venom? Seems like the Venom would leave it behind.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 08:26 AM
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Here's what I don't understand. Hennessey claims 267 mph or somesuch. If you watch the video of the making of the Veyron, it's filled with reasonable-sounding info on how they had to develop materials, have special tires made, worry about a million small and large things re aerodynamics and materials stresses, and so forth. And they did the car in conjunction with aerospace engineers, etc. etc. And the result is a hugely expensive, heavy, edge-of-the-art, blindingly fast car. But then Hennessey slaps a motor into an Elise, and bingo, same result. Now I know that's oversimplifying dramatically, but it seems the scale of the effort was so vastly different that it confuses me. So my question is, how does Hennessey do it? Did Hennessey actually do it (can it do, repeatedly, what he says)?
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 08:48 AM
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For starters, the Veyron has an automated manual transmission that was designed from the ground up. Two, with AWD, the torque of the motor is (more or less) completely resisted by the tires, meaning that the transmission will have higher loads/stresses on it, which made it much more difficult to design to last. Third, they made it a luxury car inside and so they had to pay a lot more attention to interior details, wind noise, sealing capabilities, etc, etc. Aerodynamics, longevity of materials and consumables, etc, etc, all played a huge part as they knew they'd be sued if the car blew up on a customer during a high speed run.

With the Venom, they just took a big motor, attached a heavy duty transmission and beefed up the chassis. Since it's 2WD, the powertrain is much simpler as there are plenty of transmissions built to handle that power/torque since the tires will not even allow full torque to be applied in 1st or 2nd gear (and probably 3rd) without spinning (ie, saving the transmission). The car is a tuner's vehicle and I bet it's loud, fairly rough, and poorly finished overall. They're also making money on it, whereas they lost money on every Veyron built, which should tell you how much better the Veyron will probably last, especially with hard use.
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