GPMike

You American car bashers are ridiculous. What do you want? GM to go under? Is that what you want? Will you be happy then? Seriously, if they ever did go under....that means the US had just become a 3rd world nation. I don't think you appreciate exactly what they do and how many people they employ and that affect the overall economy. Anyone, who states otherwise is an ignorant prick.

brucek2

No one wants them to go under. We just want them to build better quality cars. Look inside a Buick and an equally priced Lexus. Which car is built better, with better quality products, plastics, leathers, etc.?

GT_2003

what?!? Which Buick is priced the same as a Lexus, pray tell? The cheapest Lexus vehicle is priced thousands more than the most expensive Buick counterpart. If you want a Lexus, buy a Lexus. If you want a Buick, buy a Buick. Arguing that Buick's aren't as nice inside as a Lexus is idiotic - the Lexus costs more, so it should be nicer inside.

Look under the hood, however, and the Buick is nicer.

AlX Boi

Do hotcakes sell really well? Where can I get some?

kumainu

Regardless of Japanese, American, German, English cars, the real reliability test should be done at 100K, not during the first 3 months or even 3 years.

rockville

CR and JD Powers have both said that short term reliability is a leading indicator of long term reliability. Basically, if the car has been good for 3 odds are it will be good for 7 or 10 etc.

kumainu

That is somewhat true, but some cars, not specifically which, tend to start having problems in later years. To me, a reliability test is more meaningful at 100K miles.

GT_2003

people typically buy hotcakes two, three, or four at a time or more. See your local IHOP for more info.

rockville

To avoid responding in both threads...

Yes, we can't tell which cars will have things like a high percentage of coil failures at say 70,000 miles (some VWs and some Miatas). However, the general trend holds true. This is the same idea that makes us trust buying an Accord. Because the current Accord has been out since what '04 we don't actually know how well the current car will run after say 8 years because none are that old. We can assume it will be good based on older Accords but not based on the service record of the current Accord.

Based on the service record of all Miata's the '99-'00 cars should not have coil pack issues because the previous Miatas didn't have issues.

Again, while a lack of short term issues does not guaranty long term reliability CR and JD Powers both agree that it is a strong historical indicator. Thus if 2004 Buicks do well over 3 years they will likely do well over the longer haul. Hence the reason many people on this board shouldn

kumainu

[QUOTE=rockville,Aug 12 2007, 05:31 PM] Again, while a lack of short term issues does not guaranty long term reliability CR and JD Powers both agree that it is a strong historical indicator. Thus if 2004 Buicks do well over 3 years they will likely do well over the longer haul. Hence the reason many people on this board shouldn