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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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"The NY Times reports that the security chip in new auto keys has been cracked. A team at Johns Hopkins have found a method to extract the 30 bit crypto key that tells your car that the physical key in the ignition switch is the correct key. Texas Instruments has sold some 150 million security chips that are stored in the car key. The devices are credited with reducing car thefts of some car models by 90%. Stealing a crypto key requires standing next to the victim and broadcasting a series of challenges to the key and capturing the responses. The team claims an iPod-sized device would suffice to steal the crypto key in under a second. They advise wrapping your keys in foil when you're not using them. TI admits the team has cracked their code but denies there's any problem."

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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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well, considering someone would have to crack your key's code, then find your car, then fashion a key that would open it and turn the ignition, I fail to see the isue. A flatbed truck is a bigger problem than fictious RFID cracking device, and I have a feeling flatbed trucks are far more available. It would be easier to get a lock set, ignition cylinder, and key-computer set from a salvage yard, steal the car with a truck, and swap ECUs than spend the time cracking an RFID key, IMHO.
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 04:14 PM
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wrap it in foil?
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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Foil eh? I can see the latest accessory now, the key sheath. What these crooks need is a good beat-down!
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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I've been wrapping my head in foil for years. Will that help?
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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What if I just wrap the whole car in foil?
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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Maybe it'll make remote start easier... no more taping keys underneath the dash....
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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I want a faraday cage built into my slacks. Just weave some properly spaced brass threads into the fabric, eh?
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Saki GT' date='Jan 29 2005, 10:29 PM
What if I just wrap the whole car in foil?
That would be the ultimate in bling. I say go for it.
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Old Jan 29, 2005 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by steve c' date='Jan 29 2005, 01:34 PM
From slashdot.org.

"The NY Times reports that the security chip in new auto keys has been cracked. A team at Johns Hopkins have found a method to extract the 30 bit crypto key that tells your car that the physical key in the ignition switch is the correct key. Texas Instruments has sold some 150 million security chips that are stored in the car key. The devices are credited with reducing car thefts of some car models by 90%. Stealing a crypto key requires standing next to the victim and broadcasting a series of challenges to the key and capturing the responses. The team claims an iPod-sized device would suffice to steal the crypto key in under a second. They advise wrapping your keys in foil when you're not using them. TI admits the team has cracked their code but denies there's any problem."

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