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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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Honda introduced the gas-electric car to America, but Toyota's Prius became the synonym for 'hybrid.' Here's how Honda hopes to regain its enviro street cred.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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It's just like the South Park episode where everybody is driving their Pious. It's just as much about making everybody think you're ultra cool because you have a hybrid than it is actually consuming less energy.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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Once again, Honda got screwed!
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by kumainu,Aug 31 2007, 04:17 PM
Once again, Honda got screwed!
By who? Toyota does hybrids better than anyone else, they deserve the success.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris S,Aug 31 2007, 03:10 PM
By who? Toyota does hybrids better than anyone else, they deserve the success.
But Honda created it. Toyota improved it.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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Honda made a bet on mild hybrids (IMA) while Toyota went the way of the full hybrid technology. Honda gambled & lost. The biggest mistake they made is when they put their hybrid technology on the V6 in the Accords & went upscale with it. They would have been a major player if they had made the Accord hybrid a 4 cyl. getting 40 mpg ala the Camry hybrid, and made a lower price point. Whoever thought up the samrt idea of the V6 Hybrid should be shot. For people looking at hybrids its all about the mileage, and price with a secondary concern about looks & power.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Fanman,Aug 31 2007, 03:43 PM
Honda made a bet on mild hybrids (IMA) while Toyota went the way of the full hybrid technology. Honda gambled & lost. The biggest mistake they made is when they put their hybrid technology on the V6 in the Accords & went upscale with it. They would have been a major player if they had made the Accord hybrid a 4 cyl. getting 40 mpg ala the Camry hybrid, and made a lower price point. Whoever thought up the samrt idea of the V6 Hybrid should be shot. For people looking at hybrids its all about the mileage, and price with a secondary concern about looks & power.


I think Honda's biggest mistake was making the Insight the way it was/looked. Even though it was very fuel efficient, it was also very inconvenient being a small 2-seater and hideous-looking. Honda lost money for each Insight sold, but they sacrificed for introducing the technology, but in a lost-cause package.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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The Prius will never get the real-world mileage the Insight got. Toyota found a loophole in the EPA's measuring method; a real Prius cannot get 60mpg (more like 40 mpg) but I know people who get more than the Insight's 66 mpg EPA estimate (some as high as 120 mpg for long trips).
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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[QUOTE=kumainu,Aug 31 2007, 03:17 PM] But Honda created it.
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