Fanman

This car is meant for a very specific crowd. The people that have more money then brains will always have this problem. Doesn't matter what car it is. You ever see the threads with all the dead Vipers. Expect it soon with the Z06's. At 500 hp normal people just can't control these cars. The horsepower wars are hitting an apex where tire technology & safety features (skid control, traction control) just can;t keep these cars on the road. Although Porsche made these cars for very specific crowds. The race crowd. I heard a stat that 1/3 of all GT2's have been in an accident. Porsche figures that if you track the car then the GT2 & GT3's might be more to your liking. For Street driving the 911 Turbo should more than suffice. It's not about building a comfy GT cruiser when you talk about GT2/GT3/Carrera GT. Just some people have more money than brains, and they want the "top of the line" without having any notion of how to drive the thing.

OCMusicJunkie

The problem with the S2000 is that most owners came from vehicles either FWD, low horsepower, auto, or some combo of the above. Go from an Accord or Celica to a S2000 and you're going to have problems when you push it. I think the same might be true with some of these CGT owners. Come from something like a corvette or even 911 and you're going to have HUGE adjustment problems.

DimaK321

driving skills & talent are important; however, no matter how much of that you have, accidents may still occur - hence the term...
there are plently of professional and race car drivers who have damaged or destroyed cars on public roads; this includes F1 and rally drivers
its just that when a CGT bites the dust, it is "an event"

fltsfshr

We're all making too many driver assumptions. The bottom line is if you sell a product that's determined to be unsafe for whatever reason, you're liable.

THe CGT has control problems.

fltsfshr

DimaK321

i think that the main "problem" lies in the HP vs LB ratio
cars are becoming lighter and more powerful, this makes them faster... people start driving faster
the CGT can probably hit 60 in about 4 seconds with ANY driver behind the wheel - this makes death/injury a vivid reality
no matter how well the car can possibly handle, it will still be dangerous due to how fast it can go

cars are becoming like guns...

one more thing... take the ACR Viper; don't you have to have a racing license just to buy one? maybe that should be the norm for anything over 350hp or so

...but then you have used ACRs that go to the market

IS THERE A SOLUTION? (that will protect from "self regulation")

rai

[QUOTE=fltsfshr,Jan 30 2006, 05:51 AM] We're all making too many driver assumptions.

PilotSi

Are you looking at this from a production:wrecked standpoint, or overall numbers?I'm pretty sure there are more wrecked S2000s then there are wrecked CGTs.

Unless you prove that something failed on the car, causing them to spin wildly out of control -- it is simple a case of the driver's ego being bigger then driver abilites.

Which Porsche has no control over. In fact, no manufactuer has control over this. Sure, it maybe closer to the limits then a lot of cars, but...aren't all sports cars?

twohoos

[QUOTE=fltsfshr,Jan 30 2006, 05:51 AM] We're all making too many driver assumptions.

fltsfshr

Really

It didn't seem to matter what speed the explorers were going. And yes compare production numbers to total accidents. There really aren't that many CGT's out there. In addition, people who spend that kind of money on a car expect it to perform and perform safely. If it doesn't perform or injures them, they have the resource to chase Porsche. I would be interesting to compare production vs totals against say a ferrari maranello or any other model.

Time will tell.

fltsfshr

Picturepro

and what happened to the one in Dana point?

looks like it cought fire