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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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Total agreement here.
I only disagree in that there are plenty of successful people who didn't have opportunities given to them, and they still made it. Success definitely isn't available exclusively to those who had successful parents. In some ways, not having opportunities makes people work that much harder and dream that much bigger.

We used to be up there, but we've been falling since the 80s, and this AIMS crap needs to go. Fund the schools, get the fundies out and drop this creationism crap, buy good science books, focus on math, allow teachers to teach, and the problem solves itself. We did these things in the past, and we wonder why, after changing it, everything breaks.
Exactly - we've done it before, then everyone started majoring in humanities instead of engineering.

While I agree that they are very hard-working people, and are likely deserviing of more than they receive for pay, it's not the only way to really bust your ass in life. What about cops? Firemen? Busting your ass for your wealth does not translate one specific way.
Including white-collar jobs...there are a lot of people who nearly (or actually do) kill themselves off working in non-physical work. I've done both types in my lifetime, and I actually find that physically demanding jobs can be more attractive in some ways (and certainly not in others)

There are some people that should, but maybe not so many as you imply.
I interview MBAs as part of my job, all from top-10 programs. Sure, there are lot of people that think they are entitled to XXX amound of money and can be real asses about it, but even in a group of people that has a reputation for feeling entitled (among other things), the majority of them have their heads screwed on straight.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by hyun83,Jul 23 2007, 04:53 AM
1. Some people didn't have parents who could support them.
2. One of the best in the world? Yeah next to a 3rd world country. Do you know our rankings in math scores? Google it.
3. Everybody thinks they are "hard working," not to say farmers aren't. But you can't say farmers work harder than an investment banker staying up 20 hours for a RFP they just received. Yeah one requires more physical labor but definitely doesn't count the latter out.
4. Okay
1. From your name you may be a 1.5-2.0 gen Korean. By emigrating over from Korea, they gave you a huge opportunity. And you don't have to serve in the Army. I don't care if they didn't give you a Playstation or don't pay your rent.
2. Last time I checked, education was more than Math. Google it. In terms of technology, medicine, business, etc. we're still among the leaders in the world. AND, you have ongoing opportunities for education that you don't get in some other countries. In some places, a placement exam at age 12 can exclude you completely from certain lines of education / career. Here, there are tons of second chances.
3. Farmers work harder for longer than an I-banker who partied through college and works 100 hour weeks for 4 years before retiring rich into the land of consulting. But the point was they are unassuming and don't b!tch about working hard. I cannot say the same of my I-banking friends. And the point was to make an example of non-entitled hard workers.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by CKit,Jul 23 2007, 01:20 PM
1. From your name you may be a 1.5-2.0 gen Korean. By emigrating over from Korea, they gave you a huge opportunity. And you don't have to serve in the Army. I don't care if they didn't give you a Playstation or don't pay your rent.
2. Last time I checked, education was more than Math. Google it. In terms of technology, medicine, business, etc. we're still among the leaders in the world. AND, you have ongoing opportunities for education that you don't get in some other countries. In some places, a placement exam at age 12 can exclude you completely from certain lines of education / career. Here, there are tons of second chances.
3. Farmers work harder for longer than an I-banker who partied through college and works 100 hour weeks for 4 years before retiring rich into the land of consulting. But the point was they are unassuming and don't b!tch about working hard. I cannot say the same of my I-banking friends. And the point was to make an example of non-entitled hard workers.
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1. Its funny how you have all these assumptions of me. To sum it up, you're wrong.

2. I was using math as an example. Some school systems in other countries put the US to shame. I'm not saying the US is not up there however, there are many countries that surpasses the US.

3. Ok so someone that invests there time and money to go to college doesn't work just as hard? Give me a break. Now you're dabbing into a topic where you ask, who is wiser with their future?

Anyways, you have your own beliefs and I have mine.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CKit
1. From your name you may be a 1.5-2.0 gen Korean. By emigrating over from Korea, they gave you a huge opportunity. And you don't have to serve in the Army. I don't care if they didn't give you a Playstation or don't pay your rent.
[QUOTE=hyun83,Jul 23 2007, 11:10 AM]1. Its funny how you have all these assumptions of me.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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As far as I'm concerned, Rush's little pie charts prove exactly the opposite of what they were meant to, which is that the right people are paying taxes.

Look at the charts again while keeping in mind that the top 10% in the US hold 70% of the wealth.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Nope. I feel that if I can afford the car, it can't be that special.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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it's a shame this is become ugly and unproductive
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 03:15 AM
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[QUOTE=CKit,Jul 23 2007, 07:12 PM]
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showt...0&#entry2524944


You came here before college and your english is sufficiently americanized that you qualify as a 1.5 generation Korean.
[QUOTE=http://www.shef.ac.uk/socstudies/Shop/2sangja.pdf] In What it means to be Korean American in the Midwest: Eight Korean American College Students tell their Stories (1994) Zeon surveyed eight undergraduate students enrolled at a large Midwestern university. Their age range was from twenty to twenty-five. This study aimed to analyse the process of Korean-Americans
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by hyun83,Jul 24 2007, 03:15 AM
Okay its funny how you missed this thread

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...c=365144&st=25
I'm surprised you would bring that up. I would be embarassed about that thread if I was you.
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bloodzombie,Jul 24 2007, 09:34 AM
I'm surprised you would bring that up. I would be embarassed about that thread if I was you.
I'd be too embarassed to bring up that thread.

you call yourself korean in one thread and deny being a korean in another thread.
wtf are you?


hyun83, give it up would ya, it seems like almost every thread you post on is to make some smart ass comments or try to sound smart when you are actually probably not smart at all. even if you are smart, shut the fk up and be some use to this society by staying off of the internet. CKit just grabbed your tail and threw you on the ground with your own BS.




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