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HP -> Acceleration... not Torque!

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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 11:21 AM
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Destiny2002, I think I understand the dyno a little better (thanks). The thing is we are talking about is acceleration, and it seems that the ENGINE is only one factor, the gear ratio, transmission, and wheel size and weight (rotating mass) all have a role in acceleration.



BTW why do you think Honda doesn't put a 4.44 ratio in the S2000, except for gas mileage I can't think of a thing it does worse than the stock.
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 11:24 AM
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 11:25 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Destiny2002
[B]No, an engine can produce 20 ft*lb at the engine and 100ft*lb at the wheel.

Another engine can produce 200 ft*lb at the engine and 50 ft*lb at the wheel.

The engine producing more torque does not produce more acceleration in this case.
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by Destiny2002
No, in this case engine torque was not changed, gearing was.

(When somebody says "torque" without qualifying where the torque is measured, it's assumed to be at the crankshaft)
Horsepower wasn't changed either. So what caused the increase in acceleration? Hmmmmm...... HP != Acceleration
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 11:43 AM
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 11:48 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by wc_one
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Horsepower wasn't changed either.
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 11:50 AM
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 11:52 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by wc_one
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You said "at any given time".
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by Destiny2002
Let's go through this step by step.

You change gear ratio from 4.1 to 4.4.
Acceleration increased.
Engine power did not change.
Engine torque did not change.
Wheel power did not change.
Wheel torque increased.

Hence, Torque -> Acceleration... not HP!
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 11:57 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Destiny2002
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You said "wheel torque... is determined by engine torque. "

This is incorrect.
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