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Old Jul 8, 2003 | 01:20 PM
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http://www.jdpower.com/news/releases/press....asp?ID=2003050
The European brands as a whole have lost a ton compared to American cars. Japanese car makers are the most durable as a whole, followed by American cars.

The top five automakers:
Porsche
Toyota
Honda
Nissan
BMW

Bottom five automakers:
Isuzu
VW
Suzuki
Diawoo
Kia

The top 5 brands:
Lexus (#1 for the last 9 years)
Infiniti
Buick
Porsche
Acura

The bottom 5 brands:
VW
Suzuki
Daewoo
Land Rover
Kia

I find this much more interesting then initial quality. Mercedes Benz as a brand has fallen the most since 1990. It was number 1 then and is well below avg now. It is a good thing for Toyota and Honda they don't count Asian brands, but instead only group japanese automakers together!!
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 11:31 AM
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Those ratings are interesting, but JD Power has several different rankings that can be used to compare manufacturer quality. I think the most reliable is the initial quality study (a one-time survey), because owner participation in the long-term dependability study is erratic and inconsistent.

I'm amazed to see Porsche so high in the rankings. People have told me how trouble-prone the Boxsters are to the point where I really began believing it. That should give all of you a good indication of how dependable anecdotal "word of mouth" evidence is, especially compared to its relative influence on buying patterns...
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 11:47 AM
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Notice Cadillac is almost the same as Toyota and far above BMW, Audi, MB, etc.
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 12:42 PM
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http://www.autonews.com/files/jdptop2003.ppt

The link above ranks the top 3 vehicles in each category (Premium Mid-size, Fullsize Van, Luxury SUV, etc.) for vehicle dependability. The rankings for Premium Sportscar:
911
S2000
Boxter
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by protokultur
[B]Those ratings are interesting, but JD Power has several different rankings that can be used to compare manufacturer quality.
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 12:49 PM
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Also, keep in mind that not all problems are the same.....I remember a study awhile back that ranked vehicle manufacturers based on recalls. On paper domestics looked the same as imports, but when I dug deeper I found that Honda's were being recalled to fix things like intermittent windshield wiper-speed and Fords were being recalled because fuel lines were catching on fire. Ford=1; Honda=1. Numbers sometimes don't tell the whole story.
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 12:36 PM
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I think 3 years is too short. Whats that about 45k miles? That's not long enough to measure "durability" IMHO. They should've left it at 5 but JD bowed to "certain" automakers. Now just about every measure they take is a joke.
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