The Lightning Lap, 2009
01-06-2010, 07:55 AM
#31
Originally Posted by JonBoy,Jan 6 2010, 08:39 AM
Your brake pedal doesn't go to the floor when your brake pads are glazed, it goes to the floor when your brake fluid has boiled. If anything, more aggressive pads exacerbate brake fluid boiling problems as you input all your braking heat into a shorter period of time.
Corey is right - it's a brake fluid problem.
Corey is right - it's a brake fluid problem.
While the pads may have been a contributing factor, their pedal hit the floor due to boiling brake fluid.
01-06-2010, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by sparrow,Jan 6 2010, 09:27 AM
It certainly does. If I closed my eyes I would have thought I was in a pathfinder.
Although, I found the shifter quite nice/smooth. The high clutch engagement is kind of annoying though.
01-06-2010, 07:59 AM
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cool graph, pedalfaster. The Atom is a clear indication of how important aerodynamics are for a really quick laptime.
How hard would it be to add some CF panels to streamline the Atom without increasing weight too much?
How hard would it be to add some CF panels to streamline the Atom without increasing weight too much?
01-06-2010, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by QUIKAG,Jan 6 2010, 08:55 AM
While the pads may have been a contributing factor, their pedal hit the floor due to boiling brake fluid.
If that's the case, and Nissan thinks it's a pad problem (i doubt it)... then next year the 370Z will go into the wall again.
01-06-2010, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JonBoy,Jan 6 2010, 08:39 AM
Your brake pedal doesn't go to the floor when your brake pads are glazed, it goes to the floor when your brake fluid has boiled. If anything, more aggressive pads exacerbate brake fluid boiling problems as you input all your braking heat into a shorter period of time.
Corey is right - it's a brake fluid problem.
Corey is right - it's a brake fluid problem.
Regarding aggressive pads putting more heat into the brake fluid, my impression has been that lower-performance pads require greater pedal pressure and heat the fluid more. I think that could have played some part in the long/soft pedal I got using the HPS pads.
01-06-2010, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by HMFIC,Jan 6 2010, 08:15 AM
PLEASE oh please tell me it shifted nicely?
Sparrow and I went to a nissan dealership to test the 370z. We were so dissapointed in the cars drivetrain. As Sparrow put it, it was like shifting a dump truck. And for me, I shift so quickly that it felt like the rear diff hit the ground and came back up again and had that split second delay before the power pushed again.
As you can see the drivetrain is equally important to me as the motor lol.
That's great another person liked the Gen Coupe turbo
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Sparrow and I went to a nissan dealership to test the 370z. We were so dissapointed in the cars drivetrain. As Sparrow put it, it was like shifting a dump truck. And for me, I shift so quickly that it felt like the rear diff hit the ground and came back up again and had that split second delay before the power pushed again.
As you can see the drivetrain is equally important to me as the motor lol.
That's great another person liked the Gen Coupe turbo
Confidence booster
01-06-2010, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by HMFIC,Jan 6 2010, 10:15 AM
PLEASE oh please tell me it shifted nicely?
Sparrow and I went to a nissan dealership to test the 370z. We were so dissapointed in the cars drivetrain. As Sparrow put it, it was like shifting a dump truck. And for me, I shift so quickly that it felt like the rear diff hit the ground and came back up again and had that split second delay before the power pushed again.
As you can see the drivetrain is equally important to me as the motor lol.
That's great another person liked the Gen Coupe turbo Confidence booster
Sparrow and I went to a nissan dealership to test the 370z. We were so dissapointed in the cars drivetrain. As Sparrow put it, it was like shifting a dump truck. And for me, I shift so quickly that it felt like the rear diff hit the ground and came back up again and had that split second delay before the power pushed again.
As you can see the drivetrain is equally important to me as the motor lol.
That's great another person liked the Gen Coupe turbo
Confidence booster
01-06-2010, 08:53 AM
#38
Originally Posted by Chris S,Jan 6 2010, 01:50 PM
The best I can offer is that the shifter didn't draw attention to itself, which means it wasn't bad, but not S2000 caliber either. It seemed a bit jerky when I released the clutch post-shift, but that could be me just not being used to it. I certainly wouldn't consider the shifter to be a deal-breaker on this car.
Maybe the jerky feeling you felt post clutch maybe be the turbo lag no?
01-06-2010, 08:54 AM
#39
Originally Posted by rockville,Jan 6 2010, 01:34 PM
That's disappointing to hear that Nissan's manual isn't good. I drove a first year G35 manual a few years back. I wasn't at all impressed with the shifter. However, I think the 350Z I drove was OK. Of course part of the problem is going from an S2000 to any shifter including the Miata is a bit of a let down.
I concur, I believe just jumping out of the s2000 into the 370z may have been the contributing factor at this point.
01-06-2010, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by JonBoy,Jan 6 2010, 10:30 AM
I'm actually more impressed that the Cayman S tied the 91's lap time with far less power. I still want a 911 (I want the rear seats) but a Cayman S seems like so much more car for the money.
If you want a rear-seat Porsche, you'd be better served with a Panamera (more expensive though) or a Cayenne S (a good bit cheaper, actually.) For $16k more than a Cayman S, a base 911 gets you LESS performance, with the only advantage of two rear seats that cannot be used by anybody more than, like, 4ft tall. 
(You actually have to spend $27k more than a Cayman S to get similar track performance via a Carrera S!) Basically, except for the GT3 and Turbo models, in my opinion the only reason to get a 911 these days is for the prestige of it - other needs are better served by other Porsche models.