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Originally Posted by overst33r,Jan 6 2010, 11:11 AM
My apologies. I didn't catch the part where the brake pedal went to the floor.
If that's the case, and Nissan thinks it's a pad problem (i doubt it)... then next year the 370Z will go into the wall again.
If that's the case, and Nissan thinks it's a pad problem (i doubt it)... then next year the 370Z will go into the wall again.
Fail on Nissan's part - a sports car marketed like they do and benchmarked vs. the CS shouldn't have so many cooling (brakes, engine, diff, tranny?) as this one does.
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[QUOTE=Elistan,Jan 6 2010, 12:10 PM]Yep, further evidence to support my claim that the Cayman platform is superior to the 911 and therefore, IMO, Porsche should drop the rear-engine 2+2 platform and concentrate all their resources on the mid-rear-engine two-seater layout.
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I think the Cayman is generally a cooler car than the 911. I don't think the water cooled 911's look as good. However, I am very sympathetic with JonBoy's position. Often times what makes us want one car vs another can be a very small thing. Cost aside, the 911 is good in that it offers something that may be critical for some, a back seat. No mater how good a Corvette, Cayman, etc might be, legally you can't put kids in the back. If you have kids that might be the difference between owning a sports car vs a sporty car.
The same could be true of something like a hatchback sedan vs a sedan with a trunk. I really would love to see a modern SAAB 9000 because I would like a nicer car with a sedan profile but the large cargo area and opening of a hatchback.
I'm sure there are many other examples such as the largest pickup or SUV that would fit in your garage (I know someone who sold an F150 for that reason). JonBoy's reasons don't apply to me and they likely wouldn't apply to anyone with teenage kids but for the time being, well it's great that Porsche can give him something that no one else offers.*
*Yes, we could argue about the Jag coupe, the new Lotus etc.
The same could be true of something like a hatchback sedan vs a sedan with a trunk. I really would love to see a modern SAAB 9000 because I would like a nicer car with a sedan profile but the large cargo area and opening of a hatchback.
I'm sure there are many other examples such as the largest pickup or SUV that would fit in your garage (I know someone who sold an F150 for that reason). JonBoy's reasons don't apply to me and they likely wouldn't apply to anyone with teenage kids but for the time being, well it's great that Porsche can give him something that no one else offers.*
*Yes, we could argue about the Jag coupe, the new Lotus etc.
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Nissan GT-R is actually a strong option as I expect prices in the $50s within a year or so and $40s within three years. Sure, it's heavier than all of them but it is a solid, all-weather car that has decent rear room for kids.
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Originally Posted by QUIKAG,Jan 6 2010, 08:20 AM
Why can't manufacturers put in top notch brake fluid for their performance cars? I think that was the primary issue with the 370Z. Bad brake fluid that boiled over and bye bye brakes.
Either way, the 370Z is a no go in my book. Engine also supposedly sounds like a UPS truck at high revs.
Either way, the 370Z is a no go in my book. Engine also supposedly sounds like a UPS truck at high revs.
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Originally Posted by Elistan,Jan 6 2010, 01:10 PM
Yep, further evidence to support my claim that the Cayman platform is superior to the 911 and therefore, IMO, Porsche should drop the rear-engine 2+2 platform and concentrate all their resources on the mid-rear-engine two-seater layout. (For the sake of heritage, drop the Cayman name and rename it "911." Produce base, S, 4S, Turbo, GT3, etc. trims...) Jon, I think your desire for a 911 because of the rear seats is, umm, silly. Sorry. 
If you want a rear-seat Porsche, you'd be better served with a Panamera (more expensive though) or a Cayenne S (a good bit cheaper, actually.) For $16k more than a Cayman S, a base 911 gets you LESS performance, with the only advantage of two rear seats that cannot be used by anybody more than, like, 4ft tall. 
(You actually have to spend $27k more than a Cayman S to get similar track performance via a Carrera S!) Basically, except for the GT3 and Turbo models, in my opinion the only reason to get a 911 these days is for the prestige of it - other needs are better served by other Porsche models.
If you want a rear-seat Porsche, you'd be better served with a Panamera (more expensive though) or a Cayenne S (a good bit cheaper, actually.) For $16k more than a Cayman S, a base 911 gets you LESS performance, with the only advantage of two rear seats that cannot be used by anybody more than, like, 4ft tall. (You actually have to spend $27k more than a Cayman S to get similar track performance via a Carrera S!) Basically, except for the GT3 and Turbo models, in my opinion the only reason to get a 911 these days is for the prestige of it - other needs are better served by other Porsche models.
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Don't know of it's been noted it yet but:
2:58.8 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport (LL2, 2009)
2:58.2 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (LL3, 2007)
Crazy.
Also it's a bummer about the revised ACR not being there ='(
2:58.8 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport (LL2, 2009)
2:58.2 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (LL3, 2007)
Crazy.
Also it's a bummer about the revised ACR not being there ='(