Fanman

Yeah, but the street price is a good $10K below the MSRP on the RS4. I have heard & seen them give substantial discounts on them because they can't sell at those prices.

And of the MBZ's that you pointed out the competitor for the IS-F, M3, RS4, etc. is the C63, not the E or S class models.

ImportSport

I've actually been looking at used Quattroportes. You could get into a very nice 06 for between 60 and 70 up here in Minneapolis. It's a lot of great engineering for the money.

BPUKiller

I just don't see Italian cars as being reliable enough to compete in anything less than $100K. I think when you get in that market you start to get people who use cars as daily drivers and not weekend get away cars.

Sam

ace123

that's a very good point--didn't think of it.


what about makers like Panoz and Jag?