Well I don't think your facts are correct but you are entitled to you emotional preference. Still, I would take a look at the new Focus. It costs you nothing and I've had more than a few friends who bought vehicles they didn't expect after given on a chance (my Contour SVT, a friend's Highlander, a friend's Freestyle all come to mind).

 

What facts does he have incorrect? He simply prefers not to buy a car with over 30k miles, regardless of its manufacturer. Have you considered trying to find an older low mileage vehicle?

 

its gettig kinda annoying that anytime someone mentions not liking domestics, rockville chims in in defense...can people just not like domestics without having to hear the same rant you always go on about? i mean seriously dude, get a life or a girlfriend or a hobby...shits getting old

 

I'm getting kind of annoyed that you are getting annoyed. Can I express an analysis of facts without you getting upset that I'm expressing it? Seriously dude get a hobby or a girl, ignorance gets old.


Vtak,
The idea that the modern domestics don't sweat the little things isn't correct. I can find examples of the domestics and Japanese both sweating and forgetting the details.

When someone asks for suggestions they should expect to get just that.

 

He never mentioned that they didn't, he stated that he felt that Japanese cars had a more keen sense, in particular Honda, to attention to detail.
Seems to me like you're just trolling. I've never seen anyone get so irate over a car manufactuer!

 

Are your panties wadded or something? I'm not the one whining about a suggestion someone else made. I never said there was anything wrong with having an emotional preference. However, many on this board still cling to the historic notion that if it's not from Japan it's not reliable. Those days are long past. When we start talking about used cars we need to start considering used car prices and values. When I went to sell my Contour SVT years back someone offered to trade it for a Civic of similar age and mileage. Nope. Yes, the Civic probably did hold it's resale better but which was a better car? Honda did sweat the interior more than Ford (not that Ford sucked) but Ford got little things right. Little things like great seats, a great motor, great suspension and good primary control placement. To be honest the Accord was in my head as my first choice car (tied with the Passat) when I test drove the Ford. After the test drive I was sold.

So when someone asks for advice which is better, being a yes man and simply agreeing with a narrow range of choices or actually suggesting the person think outside the box a bit? Sure, he might drive the Ford and not like it. Perhaps he won't like it because the controls aren't like Honda's. That's fine, at least he has made an informed choice. Just assuming it and passing isn't an informed choice. I'm really sorry (well not really) that your panties get wadded so easily. If this is going to be a problem for you I would suggest you avoid the internet. In the mean time I think I will continue to suggest people challenge their own assumptions.

 

I'd keep the S, of course. Look at a used Fusion for something that's comfortable, reliable (as far as I've seen) and gets good gas mileage, 30+ on the freeway. I was so impressed with one I rented in Denver that it was on my short list of second cars for a long time. And you don't fall into the automatic Civic/Fit default that a lot of S2k owners trend towards.

 

Keep the S2000 and buy a daily driver. You will find that you appreciate and enjoy the S2000 much more when you don't drive it all the time.

Andrew

 

If you have requirements of $15k and <30k miles, why are you listing BMW and Infinity cars in your poll

You'll have trouble finding any brand of used "commuter" car <30k (Accords are not garage queens). You're looking at a stripper Nissan Versa new for $15k. I think you need to revise your requirements a bit.

Rockville is right, you'd be doing yourself a disservice ignoring the latest American models. The new Fiesta, for example, is a very sweet little car. Hold out for the ST version for a little turbo fun.

In the end it's your dime of course, spend it where you like.

 

A while back someone said the IS-F was the "cerebral" choice, and the M3 was the "emotional" choice. I think this is a pretty interesting comment because it applies to a lot of conversations we have here on Car Talk.
For the same reason it is ok to buy the M3, it is ok to say you aren't interested in American cars. It just doesn't do it for you. And that is fine, respectable, and really probably normal.
In fact I think this effect get stronger the higher you go in price; it stops being so much about performance data and features and starts becoming about appearance, sound, feel, and emotional attachment... Ie subjective things.
I appreciate rickville's comments because they do force you into reconsidering your consideration set from time to time, but I think it is normal and healthy to say you dont want X category of cars because you just dont like them.