The most you paid for gas?
09-07-2005, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by rai,Sep 7 2005, 04:29 PM
Yes but you have free health care.
I guess the only way for the US to stop burning gas like it's going out of style is for gas prices to stay high (over $3/gal). we were having gas for $1/gal not too long ago. No wonder the full size pick-up truck and SUV are/were the largest sellers.
I guess the only way for the US to stop burning gas like it's going out of style is for gas prices to stay high (over $3/gal). we were having gas for $1/gal not too long ago. No wonder the full size pick-up truck and SUV are/were the largest sellers.
The US does need to do something quick though. Being the consumer of 25% of all oil production in the world it needs to get smart. We can see that 2l engine can produce power as well as being efficient and the first step towards that has to be more efficient US engines and smaller cars but somehow I don't think the vast majority are ready for that yet.
09-07-2005, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by rahula,Sep 7 2005, 07:43 AM
We can see that 2l engine can produce power as well as being efficient and the first step towards that has to be more efficient US engines and smaller cars but somehow I don't think the vast majority are ready for that yet.
09-07-2005, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by rahula,Sep 7 2005, 10:43 AM
Bud there is no such thing as something for nothing in the world. We pay for the health system through taxes and national insurance contributions. the govenrment of no country has it's own money, it is we who pay. Problem is that I have private medical cover but I still pay for those who can't afford to pay for medical care or those who are bums and don't want to work.
The US does need to do something quick though. Being the consumer of 25% of all oil production in the world it needs to get smart. We can see that 2l engine can produce power as well as being efficient and the first step towards that has to be more efficient US engines and smaller cars but somehow I don't think the vast majority are ready for that yet.
The US does need to do something quick though. Being the consumer of 25% of all oil production in the world it needs to get smart. We can see that 2l engine can produce power as well as being efficient and the first step towards that has to be more efficient US engines and smaller cars but somehow I don't think the vast majority are ready for that yet.
In the end, you guys do pay much more in taxes, but for you, paying for private medical is a luxury, for me, I couldn't get free medical care if I wanted to (which I don't) because I'm not on welfare or disabled. Because I have a job, I have to pay both Medicare and private insurance, and I have no other choice.
And as for consuming 1/4 the world's production of oil, well, I'd like to see how many cars we have compared to the rest of the world. I do agree that our vehicles could and should be much more efficient (which is why both of my cars are 4 bangers), but you really need to look at mpg instead of oil consumption since many factors can skew that. For instance, do you know how far I have to drive to get to the next city? Minimum it's 170 miles, the nearest major city in my state is over 200 miles away. We have to travel very far because the country is so spread out.
09-07-2005, 09:08 AM
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I have not filled up within the last week. Got all 3 cars gassed up to the tune of about $2.80/gal for 93 octane before the hurricane hit. I should be good to go for 2 more weeks or so. Hopefully prices will drop a bit by then...
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09-07-2005, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by mbilderback,Sep 7 2005, 08:09 AM
For instance, do you know how far I have to drive to get to the next city? Minimum it's 170 miles, the nearest major city in my state is over 200 miles away. We have to travel very far because the country is so spread out.
1 - energy is cheap
2 - the cost of driving is subsidized through other taxes that have nothing to do with you r fuel or road usage. Or in other words only about 1/3 of the revenues needed to pay for roads in the U.S. are funded through fuel taxes, the rest comes from income and other taxes. It motorists in this country were charged by the mile(e.g. fuel taxes or mileage taxes for 100% of roads) you would see a drastic change in behavior.
3 - we just like to be spread out
4 - job locations, preferred school districts, lower taxes away from cities(fewer services too)
09-07-2005, 10:16 AM
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We can see that 2l engine can produce power as well as being efficient and the first step towards that has to be more efficient US engines and smaller cars but somehow I don't think the vast majority are ready for that yet.