Nort-sh-life?

 

nort-shlife-uh. Yes?

 

thats crazy! you would of thought the designers would continue to make prototypes faster and faster, better and better over the years but I guess after the group C cars in the 80's they finally realized that any faster and you're talking EXTREMELY DANGEROUS

 

I would guess yes. Very soft uh or eh.

 

how many people have died here?? i heard a rumor that it worked out to be like 1 a month.....??

 

LOL!

To add....its faster because of a few things. 260hp and 260 lbs/ft of torque. A track tuned factory suspension, and Brembo brakes. This ain't a Cavalier son....there are car companies that actually update their cars every 4-5 years, unlike what Honda has done with the S.

GM now tests most of its cars at the 'Ring. They finally learned and should be commended. Its no longer shocking what GM has done with their cars.

 

how does the colbat ss have a better time than a s2000?

One is a manufacturer claim, while the other is independently clocked / verifiled time. S2000 was tested there by SportAuto, Cobalt has not been tested by anyone.

 

Wait, so you're saying GM is lying about their 8:22:85? Either it did it, or it didn't, right? Would the S2000 number be higher if Honda posted it?

Anyway, a quick google search turned up a few different sources, and 2 videos. If you've watched any of their recent testing and other Nurburgring videos, they're logging this stuff pretty accurately. Not really something they should be BSing about.

 

I wonder how comparable that S2000 time is.

On the new Cobalt SS's, my buddy has one. It could well be faster than an AP1/AP2/CR on that track.

Then again, I doubt that in 100% stock form the Cobalt SS is faster than an Exige S, a Cayman S, and all the BMWs listed below. I expect part of the issue is that Horst von Saurma isn't as good a driver as GM's man.

[QUOTE=selected results, wiki)]8:22 Chevrolet Cobalt SS 2008 2.0 Turbo

 

Wait, so you're saying GM is lying about their 8:22:85? Either it did it, or it didn't, right? Would the S2000 number be higher if Honda posted it?

What I'm saying is that is a manufacturers claim. Manufacturers have a way of stretching the truth and/or leaving some important details ... like the track length/config could have been shorter, car could have been on R-spec tyres, might have had the boost turned up, might have have different suspension, might have been ligher, etc.

An independent source usually validates the time in a 100% stock car, and usually lists the relevant parameters.

Also as I mentioned, no one has tested the Cobalt at N'ring ... at least not that I know of.

I expect part of the issue is that Horst von Saurma isn't as good a driver as GM's man.

He's one of the quickest drivers at N'ring ... not many people quicker than him there (and if so, it'd be marginal).