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Old Feb 25, 2015 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Jdrum1
Have you considered a 15 passenger van?

How about a school bus? you should be able to pick up a used one in your price range.

If you'd be willing to stretch your budget just a bit ($100k), you should be able to pick up a new Mercedes Benz G-Wagon.



Another option is to wait for the Honda Odyssey to get paddle shifters. If the Pilot is getting them, the Odyssey should follow soon, right?
Ody... why? It does not fit 15 people. Just get an AWD Sprinter and be done with it.

Fit every wants/needs.
Luxury. check.
Comfort. check.
AWD. check.
people mover. check.
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Old Feb 25, 2015 | 10:06 AM
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Well the MDX and RDX get nearly the same MPG. Based on my experience with turbo'd motors I won't touch another. If they fail without warning they normally take out your motor too. At 140k it better have a new turbo. You should be replacing them around 100K. It's by no means cheap servicing.
Based on what?

I absolutely understand that the turbo adds a level of complication (more moving parts and the issue of heat management), but I could find very few instances of issues with it.

Is your turbo experience based solely on aftermarket kits, or factory engineered systems?
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Old Feb 25, 2015 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Jdrum1
Originally Posted by rob-2' timestamp='1424889304' post='23518932
Well the MDX and RDX get nearly the same MPG. Based on my experience with turbo'd motors I won't touch another. If they fail without warning they normally take out your motor too. At 140k it better have a new turbo. You should be replacing them around 100K. It's by no means cheap servicing.
Based on what?

I absolutely understand that the turbo adds a level of complication (more moving parts and the issue of heat management), but I could find very few instances of issues with it.

Is your turbo experience based solely on aftermarket kits, or factory engineered systems?
Factory, 05 Subaru Legacy GT.
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Old Feb 25, 2015 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rob-2
Originally Posted by Jdrum1' timestamp='1424891180' post='23518965
[quote name='rob-2' timestamp='1424889304' post='23518932']
Well the MDX and RDX get nearly the same MPG. Based on my experience with turbo'd motors I won't touch another. If they fail without warning they normally take out your motor too. At 140k it better have a new turbo. You should be replacing them around 100K. It's by no means cheap servicing.
Based on what?

I absolutely understand that the turbo adds a level of complication (more moving parts and the issue of heat management), but I could find very few instances of issues with it.

Is your turbo experience based solely on aftermarket kits, or factory engineered systems?
Factory, 05 Subaru Legacy GT.
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That was a fairly common issue with those, right?

I did my research before buying (I too was concerned about turbo issues), and found only a coupe of reports of turbo related issues. In those, entire replacement wasn't necessary (even though the dealers said otherwise).

The only common issue is the AC compressors, but Acura extended the warranty to 100k, and rectified the weakness in later 2nd generation models.
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Old Feb 25, 2015 | 01:40 PM
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Unless Honda made their own, the seals and bearings just wear out.

The oil filter starve wasn't my problem. The seals on mine went quickly, consumed a lot of oil quickly.
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Old Feb 25, 2015 | 01:47 PM
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It's Honda made.
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Old Feb 25, 2015 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jdrum1
It's Honda made.
Then it will be better then the norm, they still wear out, no idea when.
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