New Corvette makes Supra and others a dud.
04-18-2019, 09:36 AM
#61
Well most of the info is probably questionable at best since a lot is speculation. So it may be more rear biased
04-18-2019, 11:23 AM
#62
There isn't a single midengined (rear mid engine) car I can think of that has a 50/50 weight distribution. For reference my Cayman is 45/55.
Sidenote: a lot of BRZ enthusiasts are under the impression their car has a front mid-engine design. In fact I think Subaru (or Toyota) actually said it was. Annnnnnd, it's definitely not. Bleh.
Sidenote: a lot of BRZ enthusiasts are under the impression their car has a front mid-engine design. In fact I think Subaru (or Toyota) actually said it was. Annnnnnd, it's definitely not. Bleh.
04-18-2019, 12:28 PM
#63
There isn't a single midengined (rear mid engine) car I can think of that has a 50/50 weight distribution. For reference my Cayman is 45/55.
Sidenote: a lot of BRZ enthusiasts are under the impression their car has a front mid-engine design. In fact I think Subaru (or Toyota) actually said it was. Annnnnnd, it's definitely not. Bleh.
Sidenote: a lot of BRZ enthusiasts are under the impression their car has a front mid-engine design. In fact I think Subaru (or Toyota) actually said it was. Annnnnnd, it's definitely not. Bleh.
04-18-2019, 02:29 PM
#64
There isn't a single midengined (rear mid engine) car I can think of that has a 50/50 weight distribution. For reference my Cayman is 45/55.
Sidenote: a lot of BRZ enthusiasts are under the impression their car has a front mid-engine design. In fact I think Subaru (or Toyota) actually said it was. Annnnnnd, it's definitely not. Bleh.
Sidenote: a lot of BRZ enthusiasts are under the impression their car has a front mid-engine design. In fact I think Subaru (or Toyota) actually said it was. Annnnnnd, it's definitely not. Bleh.
04-19-2019, 06:49 AM
#66
So now onto more of a geek rant. Why not right? 
So why does it matter if a car is front or rear mid engine? To the average consumer, who know little to nothing about handling dynamics and geometry, they just see the engine behind the driver and that it is mid engine and assume it MUST be better (I am honestly not sure how much moving the engine to the back of the vette improves its handling by itself). But in my understanding, assuming both are mid engine layouts, front vs rear affects
So this will either spawn a big car geek discussion about these things or not ... but I find it very interesting
So why does it matter if a car is front or rear mid engine? To the average consumer, who know little to nothing about handling dynamics and geometry, they just see the engine behind the driver and that it is mid engine and assume it MUST be better (I am honestly not sure how much moving the engine to the back of the vette improves its handling by itself). But in my understanding, assuming both are mid engine layouts, front vs rear affects
So this will either spawn a big car geek discussion about these things or not ... but I find it very interesting
04-19-2019, 09:30 AM
#67
But they should 
The S2k is a mid engine car just like any other mid engine car. Weight is evenly balanced because of that engine placement and that is the main concern. I have heard of front mid engine for years, it is not all that uncommon of a term at all. The only reason it is more commonly referred to as behind the driver is that there are likely many more mid engine cars with that config. Does not make it correct in any form though to assume front engine does not mean mid engine. The common user not knowing the proper definitions does not make them any more correct.
The S2k is a mid engine car just like any other mid engine car. Weight is evenly balanced because of that engine placement and that is the main concern. I have heard of front mid engine for years, it is not all that uncommon of a term at all. The only reason it is more commonly referred to as behind the driver is that there are likely many more mid engine cars with that config. Does not make it correct in any form though to assume front engine does not mean mid engine. The common user not knowing the proper definitions does not make them any more correct.If I ask someone for a basket of fruits, and they bring me bell peppers and a pumpkin, I might be disappointed -- despite them being technically correct.
04-20-2019, 11:48 AM
#68
weight distribution F/R:
s2000 - 49/51
Audi R8 - 44/56
Lotus Exige - 38/62
Ferrari 488 - 41.5/58.5
The R8 should actually have more rear weight bias with its configuration, but doesn't because it's carrying extra weight up front from the AWD system.
It really is a bunch of semantics. For the vast majority of those communicating, when something is "mid-engine," it is sitting behind the driver.
The s2000 and c7 corvette should be considered FM/R - front-mid.
911s are RR, but semantics again... they're really moving more and more to a mid-engine layout. A modern day 992 has a far different configuration from 911s of the 80's. The 911 GT3R racecar is a full mid-engine as far as i'm concerned.
s2000 - 49/51
Audi R8 - 44/56
Lotus Exige - 38/62
Ferrari 488 - 41.5/58.5
The R8 should actually have more rear weight bias with its configuration, but doesn't because it's carrying extra weight up front from the AWD system.
It really is a bunch of semantics. For the vast majority of those communicating, when something is "mid-engine," it is sitting behind the driver.
The s2000 and c7 corvette should be considered FM/R - front-mid.
911s are RR, but semantics again... they're really moving more and more to a mid-engine layout. A modern day 992 has a far different configuration from 911s of the 80's. The 911 GT3R racecar is a full mid-engine as far as i'm concerned.
04-29-2019, 08:28 AM
#69
The 911 RSR is a mid-engine car. The GT3R is not.
04-30-2019, 03:24 PM
#70
I'm getting a C8 vert. I think I'll wait a while, like I did with my 14 C7 vert (first year of the C7), first on sale in late 13. I pulled the trigger in Feb 14, after the initial stampede was over. I paid MSRP and $1,500 to have Montway enclosed ship it from Kerbeck Cadillac Chevrolet Buick GMC in Atlantic City, NJ to me in the LA area.
A great car purchase experience. I'm going to go with Kerbeck again.
A great car purchase experience. I'm going to go with Kerbeck again.
Last edited by The Raptor; 04-30-2019 at 03:31 PM.