NISSAN to kill TITAN?
12-19-2007, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by QUIKAG,Dec 19 2007, 02:02 PM
At least the Ford's tailgates don't buckle when more than a couple hundred pounds are placed on them like they do on the Tundra. That is pitiful IMO.
Not a huge fan of Ford products, but to imply they don't make a good truck is asinine. I prefer GM trucks personally as they have the best fuel economy, powertrains, and interiors on the market today.
Not a huge fan of Ford products, but to imply they don't make a good truck is asinine. I prefer GM trucks personally as they have the best fuel economy, powertrains, and interiors on the market today.
12-19-2007, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TubeDriver,Dec 19 2007, 12:29 PM
asinine eh? Perhaps but not as stupid as suggesting that Toyota does not make good, reliable trucks.
The Tundra is a competitive truck, but it is not class leading by a long shot in my opinion.
12-19-2007, 09:03 PM
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i had my titan for a year now and no problems. i put 35k miles in one year! with multiple towing of my S.
I hope they dont discontinue the Titan. Awesome truck!
I hope they dont discontinue the Titan. Awesome truck!
12-20-2007, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TubeDriver,Dec 19 2007, 02:45 PM
I agree that the Titan is a nice truck. I ended up with a 5.7 Tundra but my close second choice was the Titan.
I think it's sad something as great as a Titan could end up with a short life span, because I drove the F-150, I don't know what Ford uses to measure their horsepower, but I expect it is some 300 little ponies, because the Titan has just a few more than F-150, but the 2 feel as different as boiling water and ice cubes. Dodge, well they were out because of the stupid rear door design, I hate 4-full doors, and Chevy, it will be a cold f'ing day in hell before I give money to GM again, the purchase of my '94 S-10 ExtCab 4x4 with big engine option was the biggest piece of shitt I have ever owned, that thing spent as much time at the dealer as it did in my driveway, so I'm paying for a truck, and driving some crappy Chevy sedan as a loaner, I had to get rid of it before 3-year 36,000 miles, what a financial bath I took on that thing.
12-20-2007, 11:09 AM
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^ Well hybrid is the word, I think the 1st real 1/2-ton hybrid pickup will be a huge hit, and I don't mean a few extra mpg, I mean a major increase in mpg.
12-20-2007, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Triple-H,Dec 20 2007, 03:09 PM
^ Well hybrid is the word, I think the 1st real 1/2-ton hybrid pickup will be a huge hit, and I don't mean a few extra mpg, I mean a major increase in mpg.
the article is good ... its the CEO being pragmatic... Nissan and Toyota didnt get into the gas guzzling pick-up truck business to have a bread and butter profit maker... they have their cars for that... theyre only in the full-size truck market to give middle-income suburban American's a choice if they get a truck without leaving the "family"... they know that no one in any rural parts of America is going to buy a Japanese truck... theyre not trying to own that market... they just want be a thorn in the sides of the only thing thats keeping GM and Ford in business...
the article states Ghosn feels the future is in fuel-economy... how true... i wished GM and Ford executives felt that way 10 years ago... Nissan is trying to focus more on fuel-efficient vehicles of different types...
Toyota (and Honda) already has a leg up on fuel efficient technologies than Nissan... Toyota can afford to lose some money on trucks just to be a thorn on GM's side... but Nissan cant afford that... Nissan's real competitor is Toyota... they want to focus their resources on catching up on the profitable fuel-efficient wave of the future before Toyota and Honda own a market that actually has a future... they cant afford the distraction of full-size trucks, where neither Toyota nor Nissan are making a lot of profit... and its primarily an US only market...
i really like the looks of the Titan too.. but seems like the CEO has the interest of shareowners in mind... something i wished GM and Ford executives have...
12-21-2007, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Iceman1,Dec 20 2007, 03:52 PM
how do you feel about the new Silverado Hybrid? i dont know the technicals...
Here is a real world review from pickuptruck.com
[B][I]During the week I drove the Silverado it averaged 16.1mpg in mixed driving conditions, traveling an average of 70 miles per day. GM claims an EPA rating of 17 miles-per-gallon in the city and 19 on the highway for the hybrid Silverado.
With only about 10% better fuel economy than a standard Silverado, the hybrid Silverado
12-21-2007, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Iceman1,Dec 20 2007, 03:52 PM
Nissan and Toyota didnt get into the gas guzzling pick-up truck business to have a bread and butter profit maker... they have their cars for that... theyre only in the full-size truck market to give middle-income suburban American's a choice if they get a truck without leaving the "family"... they know that no one in any rural parts of America is going to buy a Japanese truck... theyre not trying to own that market... they just want be a thorn in the sides of the only thing thats keeping GM and Ford in business...
or should I say, I pray like hell you are right.I just hope Nissan can be happy with the 60k units they are selling, or spend some money to advertise better. I have zero desire to own a Ford/Chevy/Dodge especially after giving all of those 1/2-ton pickups a complete testing prior to my purchase of the Titan. And I know for a fact, in 2014 - 2016 it will be time to replace my '05 Titan, and I sure want to buy anotherone!