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Old Apr 26, 2020 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDonEffect
Yeah the motors are known to die around 70k like clock work.
I remember reading of the Tesla motors being rated at something like 400k. Where is the data on these 70k mile failures? I’m not doubting, just curious and want to read it.
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Old Apr 26, 2020 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TommyDeVito
I remember reading of the Tesla motors being rated at something like 400k. Where is the data on these 70k mile failures? I’m not doubting, just curious and want to read it.
Just google it, a ton of info, here's some:

https://www.greencarreports.com/news...-data-suggests

Its one if the main contributing factors of the steep depreciation curve these cars have.
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Old Apr 27, 2020 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by TommyDeVito
I remember reading of the Tesla motors being rated at something like 400k. Where is the data on these 70k mile failures? I’m not doubting, just curious and want to read it.
I thought the battery was rated for 400k not the engine.
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Old Apr 27, 2020 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDonEffect
Just google it, a ton of info, here's some:

https://www.greencarreports.com/news...-data-suggests

Its one if the main contributing factors of the steep depreciation curve these cars have.
2/3 of Tesla's earliest drive trains.
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Old Apr 27, 2020 | 10:12 AM
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Remember the days when FCA trannies only went 60K?
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Old Apr 27, 2020 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rob-2
Remember the days when FCA trannies only went 60K?

Who made it to 60,000 miles? A lot of those minivans were lucky to make it to 40,000.
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Old Apr 27, 2020 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDonEffect
Just google it, a ton of info, here's some:

https://www.greencarreports.com/news...-data-suggests

Its one if the main contributing factors of the steep depreciation curve these cars have.
Article was written in 2015. Is that data still true of cars built 2016+ and on? I'd assume that data is available somewhere - I'm too lazy and not curious enough to look myself, just pointing out the age of the article relative to what I think are advancements in the tech over the years.
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Old Apr 27, 2020 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Bullwings
Article was written in 2015. Is that data still true of cars built 2016+ and on? I'd assume that data is available somewhere - I'm too lazy and not curious enough to look myself, just pointing out the age of the article relative to what I think are advancements in the tech over the years.
Yeah I was typing on my phone so was too lazy to past more links, but there's a good amount.

The earlier cars are plagued with DU issues apparently, which seems to be remedied in later years despite owners still reporting DU failures. I wasnt aware that none of the Tesla vehicles are recommended by Consumer Reports, which is far from the end all be all of automotive evaluation, but still something to consider.

Anecdotally, having worked around them for a long time, I witnessed alot of the issues those cars had, but to date I thought that the battery and motor were a solved problem. Then I had a discussion with a buddy of mine since we were spit balling about DDs and he brought me up to speed on the motor failures. I passively looked into it since I'm already a Tesla skeptic and have no immediate desire to research one, but quickly learned that yeah, they're having regular issues.

I have yet to hear about a Prius electric motor failing (I know they probably do) and granted that they dont do the work or have the output of a tesla motor, I thought that this was essentially a solved problem, but apparently not.

But if not for the DU failures, I'm still weary about Tesla in general, their build quality has always been suspect, the logistical challenges are concerning, like having a 3 month down time for a parking lot fender bender, etc.
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Old Apr 29, 2020 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by waltk88
I drove a Taycan Turbo (non-S) a few months back. I was very impressed. You won’t be surprised to hear that acceleration was awesome. How awesome? It felt stronger off the line and up to around 70mph than the 991.2 Turbo S I drove at Porsche Track Experience. The biggest difference between the Taycan and Tesla S, or any other EV, is how it steers and brakes. The best way to describe it is it feels like a Porsche. I actually think the electric steering set up feels better than the one in the first-gen 991 Carrera.
I test drove one of these back in January, and came away similarly impressed. Every bit as fast as the Tesla P100D. But with far better looks, feel, fit, and finish. Honestly, the best compliment I can give is that it simply feels like a Porsche from the driver's seat. The seats, the wheel, the steering, the handling. It hides its weight better than I expected, and handles FAR better than expected. The thrust is otherworldly. My immediate thought was - this is the future of automobiles. But I still drove home the 2019 S Cabrio I was there to see - the pops and burbles it makes in sport mode with the exhaust valves open are something no electric can ever match. That said, I would be perfectly happy with one of these in the garage, if I was willing to own multiple $100k+ cars at the same time. Perhaps in time, if prices come down. Or, maybe if I accidentally become fabulously wealthy...

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Old Apr 29, 2020 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDonEffect
I have yet to hear about a Prius electric motor failing (I know they probably do) and granted that they dont do the work or have the output of a tesla motor, I thought that this was essentially a solved problem, but apparently not.
From my experience/research, the battery will fail before the motor and that's after multiple 100k miles. The failure is usually just a cell or two, but the pack is non-serviceable by the dealer.
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