R8 tested in C&D
Estimated base price $110K and est. price as tested $130K.
It's possible to compare this to the 911 C4S but at those prices the GT3 and the 911 Turbo come into the discussion big time.
It's possible to compare this to the 911 C4S but at those prices the GT3 and the 911 Turbo come into the discussion big time.
Nice numbers, comparable to the Carrera S, but it's a disturbing that Audi's comparable performance models are getting more expensive than BMW's & Mercedes. It used to be that Audi's were several thousands of dollars LESS than the BMW & Mercedes.
I'm personally beginning to think in terms of horsepower per axel....
I'm starting to think that for standard American road conditions, 300-350hp for a RWD car is about all that's useful (unless the car is a big pig). R8/C4S/911 Turbo have an advantage in that regard (AWD). Who needs 700ft*lbs of torque on two wheels (a la SL 65)? I'd never be able to use that without constant wheelspin or electronic nanny aids.
I'm starting to think that for standard American road conditions, 300-350hp for a RWD car is about all that's useful (unless the car is a big pig). R8/C4S/911 Turbo have an advantage in that regard (AWD). Who needs 700ft*lbs of torque on two wheels (a la SL 65)? I'd never be able to use that without constant wheelspin or electronic nanny aids.
[QUOTE=CKit,Feb 25 2007, 04:43 PM] I'm personally beginning to think in terms of horsepower per axel....
I'm starting to think that for standard American road conditions, 300-350hp for a RWD car is about all that's useful (unless the car is a big pig).
I'm starting to think that for standard American road conditions, 300-350hp for a RWD car is about all that's useful (unless the car is a big pig).
Originally Posted by rai,Feb 25 2007, 10:13 PM
I think the R8 should be viewed as a cut-price Gallardo.
It's not as quick as the Gallardo but it costs $60K less...
There is no BMW or MB comparable to the R8 it splits the 911 C4S and 911 Turbo in power and price.
I guess the SL Benz and the M6 are the closest MB / BMWs to the R8 but IMO they are not in the same class.
The other car I can think of the the AM Vantage which will set you back about as much as the R8.
It's not as quick as the Gallardo but it costs $60K less...
There is no BMW or MB comparable to the R8 it splits the 911 C4S and 911 Turbo in power and price.
I guess the SL Benz and the M6 are the closest MB / BMWs to the R8 but IMO they are not in the same class.
The other car I can think of the the AM Vantage which will set you back about as much as the R8.
For MBZ I agree there really isn't a 2 seat sportcar. Maybe the AMG SLK 55, but that is $70K with "only" 362 hp. The CLK 63, that has 475 hp, but that now comes in only convertible version, and that is a 2+2.
For BMW the upcoming M3 might have close performance, but again it is a 2+2, will have around the same hp, but be $65K. The M version of the Z Coupe is a 2 seater, but I don't think it is a sportster like this car. The M6 is aproximately the same price, but more of a GT car.
Not really sure what market they are trying to hit. Maybe the Sports GT market, but I'm afraid at $110K+ for a mini car, not sure how many they sell. Hope it's limited production.
Kind've a glorified NSX.
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Somewhat disappointed by the numbers, but I doubt they got 100% out of it. I'd also like to see how it actually does around a track. I didn't get the impression that the R8 is supposed to be more of a cruiser such as an Aston, so I was expecting a little more.
Originally Posted by candyass,Feb 25 2007, 02:52 PM
Just because you cant does not mean i cant. happily driving 385 RWHP C6. Most of the time I turn the nannies off.
385 isn't excessive. 600hp is kind of crazy. Watching the road tests of the M6 vs the SL, they were just spinning and chirping away on the dry dragstrip. Anything less than perfect conditions and that much horsepower will never make it to the ground.
FWIW: I have full 32 inch snow tires on the FJ. Tried it in 2wd this morning for fun and tires just spun in the snow. 'Round here we have low range lockers to keep from having too much throttle and spin.... that's my reality 5+ months out of the year.
There's a reason why "winter mode" starts in 2nd gear for some cars.







