Rx-8
I don't happen to think the RX-8 is a sports car. Personally, I think you need the following to be a sports car.
1. RWD
2. Manual Transmission
3. Acceptable power / weight
4. Two Seats
I suppose you could make a case for AWD, but it carries a weight penalty and a lot of AWD cars tend to understeer so I would just draw the line at RWD. The manual transmission is a must have, otherwise you end up "riding" more than "driving". The definition of acceptable power/ weight is one that changes over time. What was acceptable 30 years ago would probably feel downright anemic by todays standards. Also I don't think you can really apply it evenly across all cars. I would be willing to have a lower ratio in a lighter car- because I prefer the way a lighter car "feels" in taking the corners. Finally I don't think a sports car can have more than two seats. I consider that a set in stone rule. That doesn't mean that a car can't have acceleration, braking, skidpad, slalom, and whatever other numbers be better than a sports car. I'm sure it can. That doesn't mean I consider it to be a sports car, call it a GT if you like. When you drive the car it may even "feel" like a sports car, but with the back seat it isn't. To me it is part of the definition. Convertible = retractable top. Sedan = four doors. Coupe = two doors. Sports car = two seats.
Having said all that I look forward to taking one for a test drive. This car is in my list of "potentials" when I need to add a car with a back seat to the stable.
1. RWD
2. Manual Transmission
3. Acceptable power / weight
4. Two Seats
I suppose you could make a case for AWD, but it carries a weight penalty and a lot of AWD cars tend to understeer so I would just draw the line at RWD. The manual transmission is a must have, otherwise you end up "riding" more than "driving". The definition of acceptable power/ weight is one that changes over time. What was acceptable 30 years ago would probably feel downright anemic by todays standards. Also I don't think you can really apply it evenly across all cars. I would be willing to have a lower ratio in a lighter car- because I prefer the way a lighter car "feels" in taking the corners. Finally I don't think a sports car can have more than two seats. I consider that a set in stone rule. That doesn't mean that a car can't have acceleration, braking, skidpad, slalom, and whatever other numbers be better than a sports car. I'm sure it can. That doesn't mean I consider it to be a sports car, call it a GT if you like. When you drive the car it may even "feel" like a sports car, but with the back seat it isn't. To me it is part of the definition. Convertible = retractable top. Sedan = four doors. Coupe = two doors. Sports car = two seats.
Having said all that I look forward to taking one for a test drive. This car is in my list of "potentials" when I need to add a car with a back seat to the stable.
Take a look at this... http://www.rx8forum.com/showthread.php?s=&...15&pagenumber=1
30% loss in power from crank to wheels or Mazda lied and overstated the HP...
30% loss in power from crank to wheels or Mazda lied and overstated the HP...
good point Habiib. it seems that some people feel anything that's not a roadster is not a sportscar. if this car drives half as good as I've seen in a video and as good as professionals claim......it's very deserving of the class.
Just because I don't consider it to be a sports car I didn't mean it as a knock against the RX-8. Just because I don't think it's a sports car doesn't mean it's a bad car. Conversely there are some sports cars which I probably wouldn't care to own. For example, although I have never driven the RX-8 or the EVO odds are that I would prefer it to a SLK 320 or perhaps a 350z. One more thing, although it certainly not the authority on all things automotive (or even the English language) from Merriam-Webster Online
sports car
Function: noun
Date: 1928
: a low small usually 2-passenger automobile designed for quick response, easy maneuverability, and high-speed driving
sports car
Function: noun
Date: 1928
: a low small usually 2-passenger automobile designed for quick response, easy maneuverability, and high-speed driving
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mav
[B]Take a look at this... http://www.rx8forum.com/showthread.php?s=&...15&pagenumber=1
30% loss in power from crank to wheels or Mazda lied and overstated the HP...
[B]Take a look at this... http://www.rx8forum.com/showthread.php?s=&...15&pagenumber=1
30% loss in power from crank to wheels or Mazda lied and overstated the HP...
Originally posted by cbj
sports car
Function: noun
Date: 1928
: a low small usually 2-passenger automobile designed for quick response, easy maneuverability, and high-speed driving
sports car
Function: noun
Date: 1928
: a low small usually 2-passenger automobile designed for quick response, easy maneuverability, and high-speed driving
Steve
Originally posted by mav
Yea I saw that pedalfaster, but if you read further down, the original thread starter came back and stated he has a 6 Speed version.
Yea I saw that pedalfaster, but if you read further down, the original thread starter came back and stated he has a 6 Speed version.



