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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by berny2435
Originally Posted by Marioshi' timestamp='1410888658' post='23333206
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Interesting decision to stick with 17s on the BRZ. I would have thought they'd use 18s from a WRX or STi. I hope they at least went with 17x8s. Probably just a depressing 17x7.5 though.
Why would the twerpy little BRZ need 18s?! I for one am glad to see the trend that Mazda is setting, 16" 4 lugs FTW! Also, as far as I know, no stock WRX came with 18s. I could be wrong, my 11 had 17s and the 2015 has 17s. STI, yes, WRX, not that I can remember.
I didn't say it needed it. I'd prefer at least a 17x8.
I don't feel it needs it, just thought that they would BLING it out. every manufacturer is going bigger

2013 WRX special editions came with 18s. STis have stock 18s now.
Special BRZ = special 18s was the thought.
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STI's have had stock 18s for a while and WRXs have had stock 17s for a good while. This site has a lot of great year by year info for all Subarus:

http://www.cars101.com/subaru/wrxsti...13photos2.html

Can't find any info to support that the 2013 special edition WRX had 18" wheels. They are just the standard wheels painted black instead of gray. No mention of it in any press release, blog post, or magazine article that I can find. STI, yes, WRX, no. If you look at the link above it shows the special edition wheels up close and they are 17".

The FR-S/BRZ are already gutless enough without needing to haul around more unsprung weight. Performance > Bling and its already short on performance.
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 10:47 AM
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I'll admit, I saw a picture of the tire on a 13' WRX special edition and I "think" it looked like a 18.

I hope you didn't waste to much time researching all that
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by berny2435
I'll admit, I saw a picture of the tire on a 13' WRX special edition and I "think" it looked like a 18.

I hope you didn't waste to much time researching all that
Nah, I had an '11 so I pretty much know the go to sources. Also, I immediately recognized it as the same wheels I had. Pretty nice wheels for stockers, I guess that's why I never felt inclined to change them. Another interesting fact, Subaru has used a different lug pattern on WRX and STi for most of their existence. Some think it's so people with WRX's can't easily use the STi wheels...
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 01:01 PM
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Nice I like it.
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Marioshi
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I'll admit, I saw a picture of the tire on a 13' WRX special edition and I "think" it looked like a 18.

I hope you didn't waste to much time researching all that
Nah, I had an '11 so I pretty much know the go to sources. Also, I immediately recognized it as the same wheels I had. Pretty nice wheels for stockers, I guess that's why I never felt inclined to change them. Another interesting fact, Subaru has used a different lug pattern on WRX and STi for most of their existence. Some think it's so people with WRX's can't easily use the STi wheels...
hmmm you make an interesting point there
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 02:30 PM
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in the world of manufacturing, if the part weighs less, it can cost less when it comes to steel. 5x100 vs 5x114.3 might take less material. Being that it doesn't really need to handle as much abuse through the powertrain and brakes, it can have less material. Subaru has to have something up their sleeve besides trying not to upset STi owners.

I'm not sure how much strength simply moving the bolt pattern outward really gives you if you kept the mounting face as a constant variable.

I'm sure many FRS and BRZ owners are happy that they went with the 5x114.3 over 5x100.
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Da New Yawka
And if Honda released a 200hp RWD coupe, how much do u think it will cost??

Hint: The 1997 Honda Prelude was $26k MSRP

I'll agree with u that it's overpriced. But Honda doesn't sell things cheap either.
And today, the 205 hp 2014 Civic Si is $23k MSRP.
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 04:52 PM
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its a shame Toyota/Sub didnt make these cars a little more powerful.

200hp is seriously pathetic considering it is Toyota's somewhat flagship "sports" car(not counting Lexus I guess)
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by berny2435
in the world of manufacturing, if the part weighs less, it can cost less when it comes to steel. 5x100 vs 5x114.3 might take less material. Being that it doesn't really need to handle as much abuse through the powertrain and brakes, it can have less material. Subaru has to have something up their sleeve besides trying not to upset STi owners.

I'm not sure how much strength simply moving the bolt pattern outward really gives you if you kept the mounting face as a constant variable.

I'm sure many FRS and BRZ owners are happy that they went with the 5x114.3 over 5x100.
Except the FRS and BRZ are 5x100...
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Old Sep 16, 2014 | 08:37 PM
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2013 models are starting to show up everywhere under 20k. About time.
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