Cough, find the Supra Turbo on this list --->>>LIST


(hint: it's below the CTS-V and the Maybach but above the Forester 2.5 XT)

Another list -->>CLICK

 

Nothing, they both runs 12's

Karim

 

Unfortunately for the Supra, so did the RX-7.

What is so "insane" about sequential turbos? That certainly wasn't a new idea back in '93, even if the Supra was one of the first production cars to employ it. If twin sequential turbos is "insanely sophisticated" for 1993, what does that make a 1992 quad-turbo EB110?

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Driven

 

Have you owned a MKIV Supra? Yeah, I didn't think so...

I had a '97 Supra TT, and loved it...but were as great as you say, I wouldn't have traded it for the S2000.
- My Supra (and the others in town) sure didn't have drive by wire, just a good old throttle cable
- handling was very impressive, but you could feel the car's weight. It stuck and had no bad manners, but it didn't turn in as quick or feel near as agile..and the chassis rigidity sucked w/ the top off.
- mine never overheated, and I live in TX, but it felt like it gain 40hp when the first cool front hit in the fall.

Why did I sell it?
- I thought 400+ rwhp/tq was overkill for the street, it was only a matter of time before I got myself in trouble
- thought a true convertible would be fun
- liked the visceral exp. of a 9K rpm redline (esp. as a sportbike enthusiast)
- loved the S2000's agility
...and, for the most trivial reason, I was stunned by the Spa Yellow at first sight. Actually, I tried the S2000 before that color came out, and passed. Tried it again in '01 w/ some better test drives, and found it grew on me. I'd be happy to have a Supra again, but would rather have a Z06 if I wanted such a car.



[QUOTE]Originally posted by sfphinkterMC
MK IV Supra best car ever made, ahead of its time

had throttle by wire, 6 speed, useful traction control, brakes that equal stopping times of best cars now and insanely sophisticated sequential turbo in 1993.

by far the strongest long block ever produced in production car handling upwards of 700-800 hp

Stock "handling" is superior to

 

What traction control isn't?

Even better than 145' from 70MPH in a Carrera GT?

Man I am having fun picking your post apart. What is "feelsome steering"? You can adjust how it handles inside the car, while driving it? "Superior driver confidence" comes standard?

 

I've driven a MK4 Supra on every competetive level except autocross. Stock wise, a (NA or turbo) Supra would have a hard time at our autocross as we don't autocross on any surface that has good traction, is a narrow course, is more technical to drive, and severely limits the use of good power. We hardly see any Supra's come out, however the 2 times I did see one, even with experienced drivers, Porsche drivers walked all over them. I don't want to even imagine what a capable STI driver would do.

The S2000 is the better car for auto-x IMO, however driving skill and know-how is the key here. The S2000 being perhaps the car to have in BS, it's not quite so easy to handle when the car's front and rear likes to trade places every now and then.

On an open track, a stock turbo Supra has the upper hand, as I can confirm via driving feel that it's very nimble for track use, has adequate power, and is very easy to control and predict its actions. Put some R-tires on OEM wheels and it's good to go. Some of the modded Supras in Japan use Lexan windshields and focus a lot on weight reduction using as many lightweight parts as they can, plus the added bonus of modding the 2JZ-GTE is a plus when making 400HP is cheaper and easier than buying a Mugen I/H/E + ECU on a S2000. Of course, some go for broke in the HP department but that's obvious... who wouldn't?

If you got the cash and skills, you can drive anything fast anywhere. It's just that some cars are easier to manage under certain conditions/places more so than others. I sometimes believe that most people don't truly understand (they think they do but they don't see the entire picture) about how the driver can make all the difference. Both cars are great cars, but personally I prefer the S2000 because I fit the car better than the Supra.

I tracked my car once, and that may be my last since I didn't like getting all those rock chips on my hood, however when a MK4 Supra was ahead, I couldn't pass him on the straight (the only place allowed) but he'd pull away easily wherever a straight line was visible but I'd always get right on his rear during each corner's entries. After 4 laps, I had to pit since my OEM brakes were roasting. I'm confident that I'm faster in the corners but even if I could somehow legally pass in the corner, the Supra would easily exit the corner harder and run away anyway... but it was aggravatingly slowing my entry into the sharper corners holding me up.

 

Supra handles as good or agile as an S2000? I DON'T THINK SO! Actually, I know first hand.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Slamnasty

 

oh, common guys, it can be a cool car, it is still in demand... and ahh I guess they no longer make it for a reason?

Perhaps it was too expensive and bloated in size? perhaps there is no longer a market for a sports car like that...oh wait, the Z is back, and perhaps the RX8 has taken the place of the now gone RX7, but what happened to the Supra...I know it is now the Solara!

Really, why compare a sports sedan to a roadster? Maybe Lexus will make one like it?