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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 07:33 AM
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Default Two Argument Points on the Skyline / GT-R

Someone I know got into a very heated argument with me about Skylines / GT-Rs

Basically: long story short.

His argument was that The Infiniti V35 / Nissan G35 is a Skyline.

My argument can basically be summed up by the Wiki page:

The V35 broke with Skyline tradition. There was no straight-6, no turbo, and no GT-R, a decision which extended to all later Skylines. The intention had been for the model to use a different name, a decision reversed by Renault/Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn.[26] who choose to gear the V35 towards the luxury-sport market.

Japanese tuners mostly ignored the V35 Skyline, the 2006 Tsukuba Super Lap Battle had not a single V35 entrant.[1] Tuners such as Mines, Amuse, Hosaka, Garage Defend, M Speed, Nagisa, MCR, HKS, & Top Secret continued developing R32-R34 GT-Rs as time attack cars.

Apart from the name and the name alone, the 'Skyline's of today and yesterday (R34, 33, 32) share little to no similarities. The G35 is almost entirely based on the 350Z. It shares no true blood with the rest of the Skyline range.

His second argument:

The R35 GTR is not a Skyline.

My argument: one only has to look at the tail lights, the twin turbo six engine, and the high tech drive train and computer system to see that it is simply a glorified Skyline GTR. If it weren't for the name being associated with cheaper less high performance cars, it would have carried on the Skyline name. When Nissan called it the GT-R, they distanced themselves from that image. It even carries on the R35 name as a next iteration of the R34.

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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 07:52 AM
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semantics... who cares
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by smurf2k
semantics... who cares
This... 996 and later 911's are not a 911 b/c they are not aircooled. Boss Mustang is not a mustang b/c it sets fast laptimes.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:35 AM
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The "Skyline" line has died.

All in all, who cares.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:37 AM
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But all in all, it's doesn't really matter. People that don't know will call it a Skyline GT-R.

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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:38 AM
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Going strictly by what they did with the naming convention, the GT-R isn't a Skyline. The G35 was badged Skyline overseas.

But that is dumb.

The GT-R is the obvious continuance beyond the R34. Anyone who doesn't see it is...blind.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:53 AM
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They Skyline is what ever Nissan says it is. If they call the next pickup truck the Skyline, well that's the next Skyline.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by smurf2k
semantics... who cares
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 10:19 AM
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Save your heated arguments for things that matter. Why strain a friendship just to prove you're the fountain of knowledge when it comes to Japanese auto trivia?
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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If your going to call the infiniti g35 a skyline, you might as well call the 370z and altima 2 door a skyline as well. The R35 wouldn't be called a GTR if it wasn't trying to correlate with the Skyline heritage.
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