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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bboy AJ,Jul 10 2010, 04:47 PM
Really? That would be awesome. Do you have a link?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who has a problem with the E86's throttle response. I told my buddy about it and he was like, "What are you talking about? It's just fine."

I haven't driven a million other cars but I never noticed such shit throttle response on any of the cars I've driven. I thought it was just me. Thankfully it isn't and there's a solution. It's tough to downshift when you have to floor the pedal to get the engine to rev. There's no fine control when flooring for revs is necessary.
i thought the throttle got crazy sensitive when you put it into sport mode?
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mic_crispy,Jul 10 2010, 07:37 PM
i thought the throttle got crazy sensitive when you put it into sport mode?
i would assume so, my buddy's old e46 m3 had extremely sensitive throttle response with the sport mode on. They share the same motor so I would think it would be similar.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mic_crispy,Jul 10 2010, 08:37 PM
i thought the throttle got crazy sensitive when you put it into sport mode?
It does work better in Sport but still not how I'd like it. It's really just downshift rev matching where the throttle response is inadequate. You have to mash the pedal all the way to the floor to get it going. It's like a dead spot with hesitation.

Those who have driven it: What's your opinion? Am I being ridiculous?
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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I drove an '07 Z4M Coupe for about 2.5 years before buying my 997S. My thoughts..

It's plenty quick and makes nice sounds. The I6 is uber smooth. I never liked the throttle response at all and it's tough to heel-toe downshift. While the hatch is extremely useful, the battery within does cut down on that usefulness somewhat. The cabin was nicely put together, but can feel cramped after awhile. I had the nav and it sucked. Hide the screen, change the radio station, and the stupid screen pops up again. Retarded design. The seats were relatively comfortable, but 3 hours or so was my back's limit.

I think it's one of the best car designs of the last 20 years. The thing turned serious heads. I never saw another one in my neck of the woods.

The handling was a little spooky. Turn the traction control off at your own considerable risk. I spun the car a couple of times on damp roads. An extremely talented driver on a closed course would probably have ridiculous fun in it, but I never felt truly comfortable flogging it down curvy roads. My 911 seems worlds "safer" to drive quickly.

I sold it because I got tired of it. AND the motor mount bolts broke on one side (and dealer was unaware of the TSB on the bolts...tried to stick me with the cost.) Not an uncommon problem with the bolts. I don't think an M car should have the engine sagging out the bottom of the chassis.

I liked the BMW. I love my Porsche.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mso4gtt,Jul 10 2010, 06:22 PM
I drove an '07 Z4M Coupe for about 2.5 years before buying my 997S. My thoughts..

It's plenty quick and makes nice sounds. The I6 is uber smooth. I never liked the throttle response at all and it's tough to heel-toe downshift. While the hatch is extremely useful, the battery within does cut down on that usefulness somewhat. The cabin was nicely put together, but can feel cramped after awhile. I had the nav and it sucked. Hide the screen, change the radio station, and the stupid screen pops up again. Retarded design. The seats were relatively comfortable, but 3 hours or so was my back's limit.

I think it's one of the best car designs of the last 20 years. The thing turned serious heads. I never saw another one in my neck of the woods.

The handling was a little spooky. Turn the traction control off at your own considerable risk. I spun the car a couple of times on damp roads. An extremely talented driver on a closed course would probably have ridiculous fun in it, but I never felt truly comfortable flogging it down curvy roads. My 911 seems worlds "safer" to drive quickly.

I sold it because I got tired of it. AND the motor mount bolts broke on one side (and dealer was unaware of the TSB on the bolts...tried to stick me with the cost.) Not an uncommon problem with the bolts. I don't think an M car should have the engine sagging out the bottom of the chassis.

I liked the BMW. I love my Porsche.
They have then recognized the TSB's for the engine mount failures for the z4m's. Mine failed and was sent to Crevier for repair.

As for the comments about the throttle, its true that it isn't as "progressive" you'll say or feel like a s2000's. When the sport mode is off, you do feel like you have to press on it a bit harder, but nothing that you can't get used to within a week. Same deal with heel-toe, as i soon enough discovered that it is more like "side stepping" in most bmw three pedal configurations instead of the good o'heel/toe as compared to, well, the s2000 three pedal setup.

I have a 2007 z4mc aw with extended leather. bought for 32otd with 19k on the clock. I love the damn thing, just make sure its under warranty and get the usual TSB's taken care of.

My advice, drive it again, try to drive one with coilovers, then buy it. With only 1800 or so made in the states, these m coupes are rare =D
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 06:23 AM
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My youngest brother picked one up a few months ago. His is a 2007, black on black (very sinister looking). He had been looking at getting a new Nissan 370Z, but decided to get the 2007 M Coupe because it had similar performance, was more prestigious, and was cheaper than a new 370Z.

I drove it a little bit on the street when he first got it, although I did not push it much at all. It was very comfy for the street and I could see using it as a daily driver, practicality aside. It had great acceleration and a nice fat power band. I did not really notice any throttle lag. The 8000rpm redline is awesome, but the car is really too quiet for a sports car IMHO.

I am an instructor at the novice autoX schools that our local SCCA region has. And I was able to convince my brother to sign up for the one we did this spring. I primarily wanted him to be able to get used to the limits of his new car in a safe environment. But of course, I was hoping to be able to get some time in the driver’s seat and explore the cars limits a bit myself too. His M Coupe had what appeared to be the factory Continental tires on the front still, and it had some cheapo Sumitomo tires in the rear.

Steering wheel is awesome. The seats have virtually no side bolstering, which sucks. The clutch and Transmission are slick. It’s no S2000. But the M Coupe transmission and clutch both have a nice feel befitting a sports car. The brakes are phenomenal. The M Coupe has, hands down, the best factory brakes I have ever felt. Handing is very neutral. Turn in is a little vague. It’s not as sharp as say an S2000 or an Evo. But overall it gives excellent driver feedback, and you can always tell what each tire is doing. I was really nervous about pushing the car when I had previously driven it on the street. But I got to explore the limits of the car a bit during the school. . I was really surprised how easy the M coupe is to control both at and beyond the limit. If the front end starts to plow, just ease off the throttle a bit and it comes right back. Oversteer was easy to coax out but very easy to control and recover from. Again, you just ease of the gas and the car comes right back in line in a very predictable way. It’s very confidence inspiring. The traction and stability control is completely unnecessary unless it’s raining IMO. The car is much slower near the limit with the TCS on. Even my little brother, with no prior performance driving experience did fine with TCS turned off. By the end of the school day, he was sliding the car around the practice course at the limit like a pro.

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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by fusionchickenleg,Jul 12 2010, 09:05 AM
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Was ist ein "aw"? Danke.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 09:52 AM
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^ Alpine White.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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Hmmm, that experience was the opposite of what everyone here says. Interesting.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 06:27 PM
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I bought a 2006 Z4M last year and sold it after 1-2 months of ownership.

While the engine is a gem and the steering is uber-communicative, the chassis is just plain inferior to a 987 or 987S. The car ''crashes'' into bumps and potholes...it's not a pleasant driving experience...Kind of like a Civic SI....

It's a lot of fun to drive for an hour or two, but once you've experienced Boxster or Cayman it's hard to go back to a Z4M.

The 987S will handle better than the Z4M all while being 10X more comfortable.

But if the 987S didn't exist, I would still be driving a Z4M. Great car.
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