Originally Posted by NuncoStr8

So your complaint is I won't agree that all English brands are garbage based on nothing other than tired cliches? That I won't agree that BMW makes the bestest cars ever based purely on BMW's own advertising? I'm somehow in the wrong because I don't tell people to avoid brands based purely on prejudice?

Yeah, that's rational :/

I understand your difficulty grasping why I might post here when I don't worship Honda like you. You reject any concept that might conflict with any opinion you hold. See, I don't surround myself with people who agree with me all the time. I find that boring and pointless. Why have a dialog if you cannot learn anything? How can you learn anything if you don't expose yourself to new ideas and opinions? Crazy talk, I know />/>

And, I'm bored. />/> />/> />/> Ultimately we all probably have more we agree on than not. When people post invective when they disagree and nothing when they agree, invective is the dialog. I don't post "Yeah, +1" very often. Unless it's an actual poll, such minimal input on a forum is often rightfully seen as post-whoring. So we are left with rabid extremism vs. a simple comment. It's not healthy to think of a forum that way, and it's a distortion of what really takes place. And I do my best not to contribute inflammatory statements.

I posted in this thread because there were only two or three posts that didn't regurgitate the same cliches I've been hearing for decades. Only one suggested doing some research at a site that might be more appropriate to the question. I was kind of surprised.

At this point I am not surprised that rnye cannot post without insulting me even though I think we probably agree far more often than not. You cannot post without going out of your way to disagree with me, typically of the form "You are wrong because Mustang." Bullwings paints me as his personal negative-man to the extreme - what I actually write is immaterial for his/her purposes. It's like all of you are so threatened by a voice that doesn't simply regurgitate the groupthink you can't even evaluate the written word without a logical short-circuit. So why should I leave?

I try not to insult people simply for disagreeing. I don't discount points of view simply because the poster drives Car X. I don't take other people's opinions to the irrational extreme as a counter-argument or put words in their mouth. Yet I'm the troll? />/>

Originally Posted by JonBoy

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Seriously, just when I think you've hit the intelligence valley, you somehow drill a hole in the trough and take a thread to new depths of stupidity.

Originally Posted by NuncoStr8

This coming from someone who believes one doesn't need experience or knowledge. Rich stuff.

I'm thoroughly amused by the responses to my post. If I can speak figuratively, it's like a crew of memes wearing helmets because they fall down alot and have already had too many concussions. At least they are welcome on a Honda forum. That's something.