The new Supra - who wanted this?
05-20-2019, 08:12 AM
#42
Ironic. Honestly, what else would you expect when Toyota rebadges a BMW and then sells it as their own? The new Supra is what it is, but it is here primarily as the result of a marketing exercise on the part of Toyota. That doesn’t mean that it is a bad car or a good car. Ultimately the car will be judged for what it truly is over the course of time. I feel that the current backlash is due to plenty of people being able to sense a less than genuine presentation when they see it.
05-20-2019, 09:41 AM
#43
No kidding. Another "Sport CUV", woo hoo. That commercial is both irritating and depressing.
With few exceptions like the Miata, most car companies no longer make sports cars. Most performance-oriented cars today would be considered GT's instead. Not that there is anything wrong with that if a GT is what you want. At some point the GT will be a thing of the past as manufacturers place more emphasis on self-driving cars. At that point I imagine that people will be arguing over the sport self-driving cars.
With few exceptions like the Miata, most car companies no longer make sports cars. Most performance-oriented cars today would be considered GT's instead. Not that there is anything wrong with that if a GT is what you want. At some point the GT will be a thing of the past as manufacturers place more emphasis on self-driving cars. At that point I imagine that people will be arguing over the sport self-driving cars.
05-20-2019, 10:07 AM
#44
No kidding. Another "Sport CUV", woo hoo. That commercial is both irritating and depressing.
With few exceptions like the Miata, most car companies no longer make sports cars. Most performance-oriented cars today would be considered GT's instead. Not that there is anything wrong with that if a GT is what you want. At some point the GT will be a thing of the past as manufacturers place more emphasis on self-driving cars. At that point I imagine that people will be arguing over the sport self-driving cars.
With few exceptions like the Miata, most car companies no longer make sports cars. Most performance-oriented cars today would be considered GT's instead. Not that there is anything wrong with that if a GT is what you want. At some point the GT will be a thing of the past as manufacturers place more emphasis on self-driving cars. At that point I imagine that people will be arguing over the sport self-driving cars.
05-20-2019, 11:44 AM
#46
100% disagree. Detroit is pumping out some pretty awesome cars. If weight is your one criteria for a “sports car”, then yes, you’re right. Go take a spin in a 350 or ZL1 and tell me they’re not sports cars. Nothing wrong with going to the track, putting down some killer track times, and then going home with your cooled seats on. Very soon we’ll have a rear mid engine Corvette. It’s a pretty awesome time to be a car enthusiast, unless you’re hung up on tiny two seaters that can barely fit an adult taller than 5’ 8”.
I've brought this up once before around here somewhere. This article from Road & Track covers it pretty well for me: No One Knows What "Sports Car" Actually Means Anymore
05-20-2019, 11:47 AM
#47
05-20-2019, 11:50 AM
#48
05-20-2019, 01:55 PM
#49
I think with all the impending push toward electrification and automation, most automakers (driven by their board of directors) are looking to invest their money in battery technology and self-driving technology than on a new turbo straight 6 gasoline engine (Mazda being an exception with the SKYACTIV X technology).
05-20-2019, 02:45 PM
#50
From what I can tell any backlash is basically coming from car enthusiasts. But the Supra is no doubt to serve as a halo product for Toyota. The success of this car will definitely not be determined solely by Supra sales alone. It is also the potential buyers of the Camry, Corolla, etc. that Toyota is hoping will see the Supra in a positive light.