Me too

But one can take a deep breath and count to 10, sit back and wait as patiently as possible remembering it only costs a few seconds of time*

Like I say, we have the choice of how we behave on the roads.























* a better option would be to take off and nuke them from orbit

 

But they also cause a huge tail of cars in the outside lane waiting to overtake. I think lane discipline is a huge contributor to congestion on motorways. Especially when the guy in the middle lane is doing 60ish. It turns a three lane motorway in to a single track effectively. I guess the govt won't do anything about this as the congestion caused further justifies more taxes.

 

I have to say, I am impressed with the M42 anti-congestion system.

In peek times they open the hard shoulder as a lane, there are speed restrictions that control the flow with speed traps every 1/4 mile to ensure you obide. It does work IMO although you do see the odd BMW 3-series floor it between the cameras! Overal it does use full potential of the motorway.

 

Let people use all lanes equally like in the USA .... instantly remove the problem of people pulling into say the offside lane 3/4 mile before their turning and blocking everyone, etc.

6 points for speeding over a certain limit is unecessary - nice government idea that gets police looking even more unpopular (which actually suits the government). 'Normal' traffic police don't do anyone for speed at anything even close to the limit - it will just mean those they do stop will now get 6 points not 3 if this comes in.

Better enforcement of poor driving and driving without any docs (things that usually go together) would be nicer than just upping points for cameras.

But then, sorting out the admin side and getting their own house in order so all those who get reported actually get done as opposed to the paperwork being binned would be nice to begin with!

Perhaps the figures Police are marked on should be on how they deal with the 25% or so of people who try to avoid the fines and paperwork - as opposed to looking at the 75% of 'middle England' who pay up ..... Figures, stats and targets; don't you just love the way the government has f***ed up the country with them!

Best I stop now before I upset my employer

 

I actually don't think that's a bad idea. Let them get use to a vehicle and it's ability before they go out and buy a Type R or Subaru that for an inexperienced driver is just too much car to handle. And as a sub-rule - no mods especially exhausts!

We're just about to have a driver banned for 6 points - he passed his test over a year ago but (and I didn't realise this) that if you get 6 points in the first two years then it's a ban. He lives in Yorkshire and he's working in Glasgow - now he's worried about his job and although yes he was speeding it wasn't belting round town it was on the motorway on both occasions doing 77ish.

 

My ex-boss had the Subaru Police alongside him the other day as he belted it off the sliproad and up the A15 he hit 85mph and then saw the lights behind him. Police came up alongside him and mouthed 'slow down' then floored it away. He said that had more impact and left him more respectful to the the police than if they had stopped him and made him feel small by the roadside.

 

Well, the M25 one anyway (doesn't have the hard shoulder running as yet). I regularly go down the M40 and M25, and the M40 has much more stop start traffic - so 70mph, stop, 70mph, stop, which is more dangerous and more frustrating. On the M25 you may only be doing 40mph but it seems the traffic tends to keep moving more.

As I said when this was discussed the other day (or maybe it was a different forum): I was given 6 points for a single speeding offence years ago. I don't understand why this is news.

 

I got flashed for doing 40 in a 30 back in July - wide A road, before I'm accused of speeding past a school - and when the summons eventually arrived in late August, I sent my both parts of my licence off straight away.

I only got my licence back the other day and was overjoyed to see multiple staple holes through the photocard part of it. Whilst they were processing it, they'd obviously attached paperwork, but it now looks and feels totally naff.

To get a new one (if you're not changing address) costs

 

Err, Lloyd it doesn't work like that. I have a "National B Rally" competition licence which is the, for want of a better term, lowest level of competition licence that entitles me to enter rallies in the UK. It does not restrict the engine size or power output I can drive competitively merely the level of competition.

 

No no... I don't mean exactly like a rally stage licence I just mean kinda like one.

Sorry to mislead.

I just think drivers across the UK are all at different levels of skill and concentration, this is the area that should be addressed. Not one licence, when you have it you are as obliged as the next person. Banning people who are incompetant off the motorway is deffinately the way forward.

If the motorway cameras spot you lane hogging for no reason (over say a couple of miles) then you should lose perhaps a point off your licence.