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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Survey S2000,Jun 20 2008, 01:08 PM
Does any body know much about how to take advantage of having an LSD on the S. Not power sliding though.
It just stops the inside wheel spinning when you're exiting a corner so you can get your foot down earlier, not really much more to it than that I can think of
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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Survey S2000,Jun 20 2008, 01:08 PM
Does any body know much about how to take advantage of having an LSD on the S. Not power sliding though.
You don't really need to take advantage of the LSD as such, it just does it for you.

What it stops is the inside rear wheel spinning up when its less loaded and you are powering out of a corner.
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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 04:26 AM
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Oh good i thought that i might be missing something.

So..... the same car one with a LSD the other without. The car with an LSD should have better traction out of the corner, therefore should gain gorund on the other. ok

Does this only apply to low speed cornering with a wheel would usually spin up? Say on exit of a junction.
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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 04:32 AM
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Whenever there's the right combination of power and weight transfer and grip and/or lack of.....
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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by corgi_watkins,Jun 20 2008, 08:39 AM
Back to left foot braking. I think it was Erik Carlsson (nickname Pa Taket or "By the Roof" - he obviously had a steep learning curve to get that nickname) who said when interviewed about left foot braking when he was driving Saabs in the 60's.

Said that he did use it but it was most useful when someone was catching you on a rally. He used to go and talk to the guy catching him about left foot braking, then over the rest of the rally watch the time sheets as the guy fell back...


Brilliant!
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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 06:18 AM
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Heel and toeing - On the road when i do this (not been out on a track day yet in the S) on a very spirited drive, i aim to keep the car above 6500rpm. When i am abit higher in the rev range say 7000-8000rpm and heel and toe mid/heavy braking i get a strange feeling. (not in my pants) the brake pedal goes rock hard and the brakes feel as though they have faded. However on the move again they are fine.

I have posted about this before and it was suggested its the ABS. But im not convinced
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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 09:15 AM
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No idea, you're more than likely doing something wrong but there's no way anyone's going to be able to diagnose it over the internet.

To repeat what's been said countless times before, if you're really interested in learning this stuff invest a few quid in some proper instruction, you're only going to get more confused when people start speculating as to what the problem is.
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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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Great thread but not really S2000 specific so off to Car Talk
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Old Jun 21, 2008 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by corgi_watkins,Jun 20 2008, 08:39 AM
Back to left foot braking. I think it was Erik Carlsson (nickname Pa Taket or "By the Roof" - he obviously had a steep learning curve to get that nickname) who said when interviewed about left foot braking when he was driving Saabs in the 60's.

Said that he did use it but it was most useful when someone was catching you on a rally. He used to go and talk to the guy catching him about left foot braking, then over the rest of the rally watch the time sheets as the guy fell back...
That was back in the days when SAAB was a real Marque, not a silly GM brand.

Fortunately, the egg-shaped cars were extremely strong as well as aerodynamic.

I saw a neatly-rolled Ford Ka, which re-convinced me of the superiority of the body shape.

Anyway, the problem with SAABs is the FWD meant LFB and scando flick was the only way of getting them round a corner as fast as the RWD Escorts.

Also, two-strokes seize up on overrun (oil is in the mixture) so have a freewheel device. You need to keep the revs up (bit like a turbo, but that came later) since the engine drops to idle when you lift off.

So LFB has its place.

I personally feel that LFB probably isn't necessary on the superbly-balanced S2000, unless you are running too much castor & toe-in. Turn-in shouldn't be an issue.
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