In the S I used the side of my foot, not the heel. Same with the M3 and the caterhams.

 

I'm suprised that works then. If the intention is to create some forwards weight transfer by deceleration, couldn't you have just lifted off the throttle?

 

It is much easier to do when you're braking hard.

 

H&T in the S was a piece of pi$$.

Really struggling with it in the M tho. What about you Mark?

 

A bit of both.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=obQcNoOSD5s

 

Yep I agree Lower - then you know all you have to do is apply full (ish) pressure... Inbetween that I need to correct.

Dembo, I find (and i rarely do it) that when you do need to LFB you are not using the accelerator enough to get weigh transfer by letting off - flb means you can do it quickly and get back on the power. I'm not too hot at it.

 

I have that DVD .

Fantastic clog dancing, but way out of my league

 

I'm interested in Trail braking, what is the benefit, I've done a few track days in my car and in others.

I feel confident enough now to start pushing it a bit more and have been wondering how to become a bit quicker, smoothness is obviously part of it which I am definately better at!

 

Andy Walsh and his amazing dancing feet.

If you've got a corner where you don't have to change gear, you may as well LFB. But of course the problem is needing the clutch to change gear (which Colin McRae wouldn't have had in that rally car).

I can just about do the first part of what Andy Walsh does, which is right foot braking with heel and toe (left foot operating the clutch) and then transfer from your right foot to your left foot on the brake pedal without releasing any pressure on it (very hard). This means you can brake smoothly all the way into the corner and be ready on the accelerator as you're releasing the brake without any delay.

The second part of what he does is transfer back from the left foot to the right foot, but I never see the point in that.

If you've never done it, then you don't have the muscle memory in your left leg to operate the brake pedal with any finesse, so the first few times you'll stomp on the pedal and almost get thrown through the windscreen. But that comes with practice. The other thing is that sooner or later you'll go to change gear, stomp on the clutch only to be thrown through the windscreen again because your left foot was hovering over the brake.

I do it all the time in my FWD car, but I've never quite worked out how to put it into practice in the S, mainly because understeer isn't a problem in the S.

 

Maybe, but it just seems a bit wrong that where you're needing the car to tighten its line you're on the throttle. That seems like you're on the throttle too early.