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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 12:33 AM
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Might do that Jason once I do the sums. 3yo 20k miles is an attractive benchmark. Electric is the bleeding edge
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 01:01 AM
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Just tell her to wait a few years and She can have a Gordon Murray designed 3 seater.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...med-production
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by PhilipGB
Just tell her to wait a few years and She can have a Gordon Murray designed 3 seater.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...med-production
I first posted about this here:

https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/806...don-murray-t27

Joy at last; on the basis his projected pricing stands, I shall be one of the first in line for the petrol version!
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 11:40 AM
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Can a petrol add up?

You should post your excel. I imagine they get decent mpg, they weigh nowt.

There's one of the rennos near work, covered in diamanté or some shiny shite
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Nottm_S2
Can a petrol add up?

You should post your excel. I imagine they get decent mpg, they weigh nowt.

There's one of the rennos near work, covered in diamanté or some shiny shite
Stats wise the Smart > Miaow > Reno. And Gordon Murray's T25 is twice as good as the Smart (ta Phil, Polemicist)

So until the electric option comes down from twice the price for half the range they can all forget it.

Buying a car that I cannot drive to the M25 on a full charge (or even to Nottingham ) from home without setting up Everest Base Camp is a non starter and certainly not at > twice the price. I really don't need to do a spreadsheet for this decision.

2nd hand petrol cabrio FourTwo coming up ... colours ... options ... stereo ...
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 02:05 PM
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Thank God you have seen sense.
This is a car forum!

Hybrids are bollocks too.
Little BMWs are far cheaper to run.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by m1bjr
Little BMWs are far cheaper to run.
Steve, that I agree. However, this is a Management Decision: capiche?
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 03:09 AM
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My other half has had 2 Smarts over many years ...a 700cc remapped fourtwo and for the last 5 years a Fourtwo Passion cabrio with a 1L 84bhp engine. She loves them !

I have to say, I was dead against them until I drove one. they are tardis like and have a bigger boot than you realise for the size of car. The gearboxes are far better than the originals though are still a bit awkward and nothing like a normal auto. The handling agan used to be rubbish and is now far better sorted.

I personally wouldn't go electric. The Mhd 71 bhp version gives great mpg - though make sure it has the drive belt mod by the dealer (they have been snapping). I think you are looking mid 50's mpg.

The panels being plastic means car park dinks are almost a thing of the past ! The most we have had is scuffs as the panel doesn't dent like metal. Almost worth buying just to do the shopping .... I just got a quote - 2K deposit and 119 a month on PCP for 3 yrs 10K miles. 5.3 APR with about 3.5-4K to pay at the end or give the car back.

I have recently driven a diesel one (83mpg - govt figures urban !!) and loved it. I may even buy one to go with the Beemer and used the Smart just for work ! I was that impressed - and no, I am not gay
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 06:36 AM
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Candidate for hybrid turbo, dump valve and meth injection
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 07:07 AM
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A client had a Brabus.

That fixed the gearchange & the handling; it was quite tidy on roundabouts, but hated road tits. You thought you'd end up staring at the sky.

Due to the stress, the Mitsubishi kei-car engines are short-lived and not that cheap to rebuild. Hence it was outed.

Battery-operated is probably a definition of insanity; keep building the same thing every decade for a century and expecting different results.
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