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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 03:40 AM
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I thought that the title referred to Dutch driving habits
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Ultra_Nexus
From what I gather, undertaking is legal.

I was 'making progress' on the M6 toll, as one does, and came across a number of cars who were all CLOGs as CHIPPO puts it.

I undertook them.

Reason?

I was on the inside lane, you know the place where you go when there is nothing to overtake. In order for me to overtake I would have had to swerve across two lanes and then move back again. Or I could stay in my lane.

The highway code seems to agree with this - after all, everyone undertakes in a traffic jam without issue.
The law was changed a while ago so that it's potentially a prison-able offence wasn't it?

Of course there is no way of blanket policing available like speed so it will typically come down to one of the few traffic officers discretion. Performing an undertaking manoeuvre like a tool will be treated like any undue care an attention infraction no doubt, but being in a flowing lane passing people with no lane discipline would have to be a very slow day and a seriously officious copper to do anything.

I still don't understand how people end up so bad at something they do every day.

My commute home often ends up gridlocked on the M60 and you see drivers racing/braking/racing/braking like a friggin accordion. Jumping onto the carriage way as soon as they can rather than easing up the slip road and blending, and diving from perfectly flowing lanes into the 'fast' lanes. Honestly 'mostly motorway miles' means sod all in terms of a cars condition from what I observe.

I think the only real solution is mandatory cruise control on motorways to be honest.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 08:16 AM
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Traffic police Enforcement for CLOGS and Tailgaters?

When did YOU last see any politz on the motorway?

I was told that there are only TWO officers on the Lancashire roads where I live !!
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilipGB
I still don't understand how people end up so bad at something they do every day.
Easy - we are surrounded in a plush metal box with a temperature of our liking, the radio on, leaning back and simply doing what the car in front does.

You don't need to think about driving now.

Cycling to work I see it more than most. Lights turn green, it's a 20mph zone anyway and 100yards ahead is a queue of five cars waiting at another red light. So naturally you drop the clutch and go as fast as you can to the next traffic jam.

My personal aim on the motorway is to complete the journey without braking. If I manage this is means I have looked far enough ahead to compensate for the other shortsighted idiots. It also keeps me concentrating on the road.
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Ultra_Nexus
My personal aim on the motorway is to complete the journey without braking. If I manage this is means I have looked far enough ahead to compensate for the other shortsighted idiots. It also keeps me concentrating on the road.
If people drove correctly on a motorway there should never be any need for braking. Unfortunately complete stand still traffic and the guy in front brake checking you because he realises he's left it until 200 yards before his exit to move over 2 lanes of busy traffic kill that practice.

And it's incredible how wound up you not playing traffic accordion can make the vehicle behind you when you are keeping a gap big enough to hold a pace rather than the usual race/brake/race/brake mentality.

Several times a week I get some gimp in a 4x4 or van casting my heads silhouette down the road because he's so close to my rear bumper wondering my I'm not trying to set a quarter mile record to the stopped traffic ahead, only to see him dive into the stand still middle lane where he can relax and park until it moves 4 more meters and stops again.
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