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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Hypersonik,Jun 27 2008, 04:53 AM
Oh yeah: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&ge...013647&t=h&z=17
Scroll up (north) a bit till you see beginning of old chester road.

I was heading southeast

Started my overtake by the bus symbol things (by beginning of Old CHester Road).
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Looking at the road, I have 2 observations, this isn't a criticism by the way, just observation.

There is a hatched refuge for cars turning right into Mill Pool Lane, anyone caught out in the centre of the road like you were is putting themselves at risk of rear-ending a car waiting to turn right in the refuge. Any driver approaching the refuge would not expect to see a car to their right and may have pulled out without checking their mirrors.

Hatched areas bordered with solid lines are a real no-no with regard to road policing, the theory is that this is an area of road set aside for safety reasons, so entering it should be a last resort. They will probably argue that since the traffic bunched up, you should have braked and pulled in behind, rather than carrying on.

Personally I would say to them that you know this is what you should have done, but in the heat of the moment, and it being a split second decision you went for the other option, you now know you should have gone for the safer one of pulling in.
Old Jun 27, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkB,Jun 27 2008, 11:16 AM
Thanks.

Looking at the road, I have 2 observations, this isn't a criticism by the way, just observation.

There is a hatched refuge for cars turning right into Mill Pool Lane, anyone caught out in the centre of the road like you were is putting themselves at risk of rear-ending a car waiting to turn right in the refuge. Any driver approaching the refuge would not expect to see a car to their right and may have pulled out without checking their mirrors.

Hatched areas bordered with solid lines are a real no-no with regard to road policing, the theory is that this is an area of road set aside for safety reasons, so entering it should be a last resort. They will probably argue that since the traffic bunched up, you should have braked and pulled in behind, rather than carrying on.

Personally I would say to them that you know this is what you should have done, but in the heat of the moment, and it being a split second decision you went for the other option, you now know you should have gone for the safer one of pulling in.
Yeah, I would have happily pulled in behind him except he was braking and I was probably doing 30mph more than him.

If i'd of pulled in, i'd have hit him.

For what it's worth, this is what I sent them:

The road surface was wet. The conditions were good. Traffic was moderate and travelling at a speed of 35
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 12:53 AM
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just incase it comes up - NSL on a 2-way road is 50. NSL on dual carraige way is 60. at least i think it is - dont pay much attention to limits outside builtup/city areas.

i dont know if the car course is any different than the advanced bike course, but on the bike course they encourage you to exceed the limit for a breif moment for overtaking scenario's. this obviously leaves you exposed to the on-coming traffic for the least ammount of time.
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 01:02 AM
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No, NSL is 60mph, assuming you're talking about normal cars! And 70 on a dual carriageway (with a central reservation) !!!
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 01:21 AM
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by veehexx,Jun 28 2008, 09:53 AM
just incase it comes up - NSL on a 2-way road is 50. NSL on dual carraige way is 60. at least i think it is - dont pay much attention to limits outside builtup/city areas.
As stated, you're wrong it's 60 and 70 respectively.

This begs the question, do you ever wonder why people are caught behind you on NSL roads? or why everyone seems to faster than you on dual carriageways
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by veehexx,Jun 28 2008, 09:53 AM
just incase it comes up - NSL on a 2-way road is 50. NSL on dual carraige way is 60. at least i think it is - dont pay much attention to limits outside builtup/city areas.
I'd be pretty embarrassed to get that wrong on a car forum
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Hypersonik,Jun 27 2008, 08:31 PM
...I presented myself in a calm relaxed manor
I'd have given you 3 points and
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 02:35 AM
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[QUOTE=lovegroova,Jun 28 2008, 09:47 AM] I'd have given you 3 points and
Old Jun 29, 2008 | 02:52 AM
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/me feels embarrased!

ah well, atleast i wasnt going to get caught speeding if i was doing MY NSL

and no, theres never anyone in my rear view mirror
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