Honda have been doing turbo road cars for years.

And if it was only 210bhp, that'd be a bit of a weak effort because we all know it'll weigh in at >1300kg.

 

I do have a turbo 'Civic' already and it scares the bloody pants off me its so damn good.

Its called the 2.2. i CTDi

Turbo diesel - standard 145BHP - a simple mod using a Galletto interface, download the ECU data, send the CELTIC tuning and welcome 196BHP with 315 pounds of torque.

Overwhelming.

Clutch will give up earlier than for a non flashed car but the torque is so much fun.

Similair scary cars include the BMW335D.

Nothing else comes close with 45MPG to boot.

Excellent braking and suspension is great for potholed roads.

 

pity its fwd though.

 

Pity its true.

But great for everyday fun.

And would bet it would give a seriously hard time to much more expensive cars.

 

so you drive a performance diesel .

i used to have a frv 2.2tdci.nice engine.

 

The simple upgrade of 50BHP is addictive.

I love it. These Honda diesel engines are the contrary of petrol - all low end grunt and torque.

And economy to boot!

Lovely cars:

 

pfft.you dont know the meaning of low end torque.

wereas i know nowt about fuel economy

 

Galetto , those things wreck ECU's 7/10 times and usually require a BDM to put right but yeah remapping a diesel is fun, my yaris went from 90BHP to 116BHP from a 1.4 8V. A hot day though most diesels lose power unless the intercooler is upgraded. Most of these companies inflate there remap figures so much though so I wouldn't be surprised if your 2.2cdti made less (Celtic are one of the worse fot it).

 

I really cant see Mugen doing a turbo CTR, its not what Honda do nor is it economically viable for honda nowadays.

For me the only proper type R's were the old Civic Type R (EK9), the DC2 and possibly a DC5.

Newer type R's are poor IMO.

IMO the type R era has had its day, there are more economical, faster and more fuel efficient cars out there. Are they are much fun well that's debatable.

 

Good point Chris, and no I haven't. However my quote wasn't not very good, it was not "that" good. Which referred to the cost for the performance on offer... £40k for a sub 300bhp hatch which still doesn't have independent rear suspension, and has been completely stripped out to make it a 2 seater, strikes me as a bit ridiculous. No matter how many carbon parts they put on it. I'm talking specifically about the UK Type Rs here, not the JDM efforts.

And the Mugen UK efforts I've seen on the show room floor have been purely styling exercises, albeit very expensive ones

The reviews of the Mugened CR-Z haven't really filled me with excitement either - neither particularly fast, nor economical, and have been very expensive too. In fact you could say that about any CR-Z IMO. Great looking sports car which isn't quick enough, or economical enough so misses the mark on both counts for me.