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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 03:11 AM
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Does anybody know why disc brakes seem to wear out so quickly these days?

Scored discs seems to be really common now and the garage always want's to change them.

Sometimes this can happen in as little as 20,000 miles.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 03:16 AM
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because they use copper in the pads instead of asbestos.


i think.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 04:31 AM
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Not sure what it is (could be copper) in the pads.

But it is down to the pad compounds used and the fact that modern systems are so much better at stopping cars than they used to be (and the cars are heavier).

Better braking = more friction = more wear I guess. Pad compunds may have changed, but disks are still made of steel.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 05:07 AM
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do they? my passat is still on it's orignal set of disks at 104k
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkB,Apr 10 2008, 01:31 PM
Not sure what it is (could be copper) in the pads.

But it is down to the pad compounds used and the fact that modern systems are so much better at stopping cars than they used to be (and the cars are heavier).

Better braking = more friction = more wear I guess. Pad compunds may have changed, but disks are still made of steel.
I thought brake discs were made of cast iron rather than steel.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 05:31 AM
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Oops, my bad.

Not steel......
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Ste_Nova,Apr 10 2008, 02:07 PM
do they? my passat is still on it's orignal set of disks at 104k
Passat brakes seem to be quite good. One of may sales reps did 80k miles before he even had to change the brake pads let alone the discs.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 05:57 AM
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know that 17 years ago I was able to warp my disks...
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 06:02 AM
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I think garages regard pads/disks as an easy way of extracting money from unsuspecting punters.

As en e.g., at its 25k service I was told my cars pads only had 6k left in them and needed changing. I responded that 6k represented 20% of their service life according to them, so I would not change them, and I doubted that was all that was left.

Surprise surprise at the next service (37.5k) they still had life left in them.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 06:06 AM
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cast iron is steel.isnt it?
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