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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 01:43 AM
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App for the iPhone. It uses the phones accelerometer sensors to track runs, acceleration, braking, G-forces, etc etc.

Apparently in tests(do a google) it is very accurate compared with very expensive aftermarket equipment. I think it's about $12

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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 01:49 AM
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The Apex-i RSM does this with a G-sensor ..

Was fun, but nothing special.

How does the iPhone measure the speed? GPS?
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 01:54 AM
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Accelerometer will be very accurate but only in one plane, unless there's a new kind of accelerometer I don't know about which is entirely possible. It will measure speed by acceleration - very clever stuff.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Boab01,Aug 12 2008, 09:54 AM
Accelerometer will be very accurate but only in one plane, unless there's a new kind of accelerometer I don't know about which is entirely possible. It will measure speed by acceleration - very clever stuff.
So you have to mount the phone at a perfect 90 degrees, and any suspension movement (like under hard acceleration, or gear changes) will bugger the result.



So you need a spirit level to find a quater mile flat peice of road, and solid suspension.

It's why the RSM uses the speedo reading and a g-sensor combined to work out the acceleration.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 02:00 AM
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I'm not sure about that I'm afraid. I'll have a google around and try to understand how the iphone accelerometer works
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 02:03 AM
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It'll never be accurate, but for a bit of fun it's good.

I've got to find the software that makes lightsaber sounds for my N95 when you wave it about.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Boab01,Aug 12 2008, 10:54 AM
Accelerometer will be very accurate but only in one plane, unless there's a new kind of accelerometer I don't know about which is entirely possible. It will measure speed by acceleration - very clever stuff.
It would be pretty crap if it only measured acceleration in one plane. I think it's fair to assume it works in all three.

You don't have to be clever to work out speed from acceleration.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Dembo,Aug 12 2008, 02:04 AM
It would be pretty crap if it only measured acceleration in one plane. I think it's fair to assume it works in all three.

You don't have to be clever to work out speed from acceleration.
Yep 3 axis accelerometer. It's extremely clever and likely to be fairly accurate it's made by micro machining bits of silicon that dangle in a substrate and have movement in the one plane that it's interested in. In reality it's 3 accelerometers combined into a single instrument the size of a silicon chip. It's put the iphone up in my estimations and is now very slightly gay as opposed to laura ashley gay.

Very, very cool piece of kit
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Boab01,Aug 12 2008, 11:13 AM
Yep 3 axis accelerometer. It's extremely clever and likely to be fairly accurate it's made by micro machining bits of silicon that dangle in a substrate and have movement in the one plane that it's interested in. In reality it's 3 accelerometers combined into a single instrument the size of a silicon chip.
Amazing what we can do nowadays.

The problem with calculating speed is that the innaccuracies would be cumulative. So it'd be pretty accurate doing 0-60 or whatever, but if you were to drive for an hour you might expect its speed reading to be a bit out. For that GPS, or just the speed sensor would likely be more accurate.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Dembo,Aug 12 2008, 02:37 AM
Amazing what we can do nowadays.

The problem with calculating speed is that the innaccuracies would be cumulative. So it'd be pretty accurate doing 0-60 or whatever, but if you were to drive for an hour you might expect its speed reading to be a bit out. For that GPS, or just the speed sensor would likely be more accurate.
The best scenario is where you use both GPS and accelerometers for when you lose the GPS signal.

I passed that exams last time
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