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11-12-2008, 09:14 PM
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Some generalisations in this thread 
The fuel tanks size on the Evo 6 / 7 was 50 or 48 litres, which is pretty small when it only lasts 180 miles on a good day.
The Evo 7-9 had a 55 litre tank. My 8 used to get me 220-240 miles after the remap. Fine fine car....
The Evo X also has a 55 litre tank I believe.
Re the computers not saving you, this gets thrown at any Evo or Skyline found to have had an off. They aren't really designed to save your ass, they are designed to get you round a bend as quickly as possible. There are 2 problems with that. Firstly most people panic when they think it's going wrong and lift off. This is bad in most cars but in an AYC equipped Evo it does confuse it a fair bit, and its hedge time! So mostly it's the owners lack of understanding. Secondly nothing will save you with too high an entry speed contrary to belief.
I never felt quite sure about the AYC, and was alwyas more confident in an Impreza. For that reason I would only go for a 9 GT from now on.
The Evo X is a new platform, and unfortuantely a lot heavier - but it does look interesting! Also not keen on the option of 5 speed manual or paddles.
Evo 10 intervals are 10k.
On the 8 backwards you were supposed to have a 4500 miles
The fuel tanks size on the Evo 6 / 7 was 50 or 48 litres, which is pretty small when it only lasts 180 miles on a good day.
The Evo 7-9 had a 55 litre tank. My 8 used to get me 220-240 miles after the remap. Fine fine car....
The Evo X also has a 55 litre tank I believe.
Re the computers not saving you, this gets thrown at any Evo or Skyline found to have had an off. They aren't really designed to save your ass, they are designed to get you round a bend as quickly as possible. There are 2 problems with that. Firstly most people panic when they think it's going wrong and lift off. This is bad in most cars but in an AYC equipped Evo it does confuse it a fair bit, and its hedge time! So mostly it's the owners lack of understanding. Secondly nothing will save you with too high an entry speed contrary to belief.
I never felt quite sure about the AYC, and was alwyas more confident in an Impreza. For that reason I would only go for a 9 GT from now on.
The Evo X is a new platform, and unfortuantely a lot heavier - but it does look interesting! Also not keen on the option of 5 speed manual or paddles.
Evo 10 intervals are 10k.
On the 8 backwards you were supposed to have a 4500 miles
11-12-2008, 10:55 PM
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All theses comments about service intervals and fuel tank size are at odds to what the Evo was originally about IMO.
It was a highly specialised car aimed at enthusiasts who didn't care about that sort of thing, they wanted something that was a good drive and didn't mind making a few sacrifices.
I know things have moved on, I've got a one track mind and I'm in the minority but it's you lot who want these cars to do absolutely *everything* for less than 2p a mile that stop the manufacturers making the cars that I like.
It's your fault that there's no S2000 Type R and Cayman Clubsport. Probably.
So stop it and buy something else before they make an Evo Diesel
It was a highly specialised car aimed at enthusiasts who didn't care about that sort of thing, they wanted something that was a good drive and didn't mind making a few sacrifices.
I know things have moved on, I've got a one track mind and I'm in the minority but it's you lot who want these cars to do absolutely *everything* for less than 2p a mile that stop the manufacturers making the cars that I like.
It's your fault that there's no S2000 Type R and Cayman Clubsport. Probably.
So stop it and buy something else before they make an Evo Diesel
11-12-2008, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by chilled,Nov 12 2008, 09:02 PM
I've seen a few on the roads. The computers in them aren't infallible. One of them was embedded in the arnco at the ring.
If a n0bber is going too fast, he gonna crash
Personally, I don't like the look of the Evo X.
If I ever bought one, it would be an 8 MR i think
11-13-2008, 02:25 AM
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I agree with MB
Too many generalisations about Evo's and their drivers.
I have had an Evo 5 (which along with the 6 was what many believe to be the last hardcore evo's) for over two years.
I am certainly no chav, and have no desire to be. Any car can be made to look chavvy.
Fun wise i would say it is one of the best cars that i have owned, which is quite a statement seen as i have owned a lot of fast jap cars including an MR2 Turbo, Subaru Impreza WRX STi Type R 2 door coupe and a 500bhp Twin Turbo 6 Speed Supra.
The driveability is unbelieveable and with a few subtle mods, such as uprated larger clutch, Uprated flywheel, downpipe, decat, full stainless system, AVCR boost controller, proper setup, lowered with fast road settings amongst other things make this car very very quick and safe point to point. The brakes are awesome as standard running brembo 4 pots.
When people buy cars like this, they know all about the servicing and other running costs. Yes it needs a service every 4500, but these services vary in size each time, and most of the time are just minor services.
The fuel tank is not the biggest, but i regularly get between 220 and 240 miles from a tank. As standard the mapping runs stupidly rich, so by having the ECU remapped pays for itself in no time in fuel economy.
I know this is wandering a little off topic from the original post, but i just wanted to put my 2p across as a proud Evo driver, even if this experience is coming to an end as i look to calm down and little and get a more sensible but still fun car such as the S2000.
Cheers
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Too many generalisations about Evo's and their drivers.
I have had an Evo 5 (which along with the 6 was what many believe to be the last hardcore evo's) for over two years.
I am certainly no chav, and have no desire to be. Any car can be made to look chavvy.
Fun wise i would say it is one of the best cars that i have owned, which is quite a statement seen as i have owned a lot of fast jap cars including an MR2 Turbo, Subaru Impreza WRX STi Type R 2 door coupe and a 500bhp Twin Turbo 6 Speed Supra.
The driveability is unbelieveable and with a few subtle mods, such as uprated larger clutch, Uprated flywheel, downpipe, decat, full stainless system, AVCR boost controller, proper setup, lowered with fast road settings amongst other things make this car very very quick and safe point to point. The brakes are awesome as standard running brembo 4 pots.
When people buy cars like this, they know all about the servicing and other running costs. Yes it needs a service every 4500, but these services vary in size each time, and most of the time are just minor services.
The fuel tank is not the biggest, but i regularly get between 220 and 240 miles from a tank. As standard the mapping runs stupidly rich, so by having the ECU remapped pays for itself in no time in fuel economy.
I know this is wandering a little off topic from the original post, but i just wanted to put my 2p across as a proud Evo driver, even if this experience is coming to an end as i look to calm down and little and get a more sensible but still fun car such as the S2000.
Cheers
Martyn
11-13-2008, 03:18 AM
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The car is a Mitsubishi; it will go on for years.
Once people stop thinking they are underpants and change them as often, depreciation becomes less of an issue.
I keep looking out for a 10, but have yet to see one. Subaru has lost something with their new model and I hope the same is not true of Mitsubishi.
IIRC, there is a 'light' EVO in the new Lancer range, which probably is more sensible, with a couple of detail modifications...
Furthermore, in terms of perceived quality/snob issues, I cannot help feel that Honda is missing out by not installing the SH-AWD and K23 Turbo from an RDX under the shell of a JDM Civic and calling it 'Integra'...
So long as they get that accursed numbness out of the steering.
Once people stop thinking they are underpants and change them as often, depreciation becomes less of an issue.
I keep looking out for a 10, but have yet to see one. Subaru has lost something with their new model and I hope the same is not true of Mitsubishi.
IIRC, there is a 'light' EVO in the new Lancer range, which probably is more sensible, with a couple of detail modifications...
Furthermore, in terms of perceived quality/snob issues, I cannot help feel that Honda is missing out by not installing the SH-AWD and K23 Turbo from an RDX under the shell of a JDM Civic and calling it 'Integra'...
So long as they get that accursed numbness out of the steering.
11-13-2008, 04:16 AM
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just to add my penny's worth...
My hubbie's got an imported 7, and I've got to be honest, when he said he was swopping his CTR 54 plate for a Y reg import, I wasn't keen.
However, the performance and handling is phenominal and I do love it, even though I'm not allowed to drive it.
He knew all about the costs of running it, but had always hankered after an Evo, and felt like it was an itch he had to scratch.
He certainly isn't a chav, and the car is not modded at all - quite understated if you can say that of an evo. But I can't speak for any number of other Evo owners out there. The purchase of an Evo is very much one of passion and heart rather than sense. I can understand why they've got such a following.
We attended a world record attempt at Castle Coombe last year for the highest number of Evos on a track at once - really great seeing examples through the years. However, there was a good quantity of those examples you just wince at thinking, "What have they done to it!!", as well as some beautiful cars.
Personally I think the 10 is gorgeous, but yes, give it a few years and they will be more of a bargain. However, the Evos hold their value much better than the Scoobys due to being more rare, so the saving may not be that much. The new Scooby is a crime of design - looks more like a Kia, or Proton! Really don't know who would pay money for them now.
All comes down to who will buy one - whoever buys one tends to be an enthusiast who is determined to have one, whereas for ordinary hot hatches, they get their choice of a number of other cars. If you want that performance and handling for that money there really aren't many alternatives unless you want to spend silly money on mods.
Well, there you go - thought I'd add my thoughts to the thread as someone who lives with an Evo owner and didn't get it, till we got one!
P.S. Still sometimes wish he had the CTR when money is tight, but the Evo is simply a different machine - a beast!!
My hubbie's got an imported 7, and I've got to be honest, when he said he was swopping his CTR 54 plate for a Y reg import, I wasn't keen.
However, the performance and handling is phenominal and I do love it, even though I'm not allowed to drive it.
He knew all about the costs of running it, but had always hankered after an Evo, and felt like it was an itch he had to scratch. He certainly isn't a chav, and the car is not modded at all - quite understated if you can say that of an evo. But I can't speak for any number of other Evo owners out there. The purchase of an Evo is very much one of passion and heart rather than sense. I can understand why they've got such a following.
We attended a world record attempt at Castle Coombe last year for the highest number of Evos on a track at once - really great seeing examples through the years. However, there was a good quantity of those examples you just wince at thinking, "What have they done to it!!", as well as some beautiful cars.
Personally I think the 10 is gorgeous, but yes, give it a few years and they will be more of a bargain. However, the Evos hold their value much better than the Scoobys due to being more rare, so the saving may not be that much. The new Scooby is a crime of design - looks more like a Kia, or Proton! Really don't know who would pay money for them now.
All comes down to who will buy one - whoever buys one tends to be an enthusiast who is determined to have one, whereas for ordinary hot hatches, they get their choice of a number of other cars. If you want that performance and handling for that money there really aren't many alternatives unless you want to spend silly money on mods.
Well, there you go - thought I'd add my thoughts to the thread as someone who lives with an Evo owner and didn't get it, till we got one!
P.S. Still sometimes wish he had the CTR when money is tight, but the Evo is simply a different machine - a beast!!
11-13-2008, 04:17 AM
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11-13-2008, 08:11 AM
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Nick, there is the usual RS version which is pretty well stipped.
These are the rally homologation cars which have wheels and seats from a standard Lancer
I think it's quite cool, as they just stuck them in with the knowledge people are only buying them to race or rally, and will ditch these items.
These are the rally homologation cars which have wheels and seats from a standard Lancer
I think it's quite cool, as they just stuck them in with the knowledge people are only buying them to race or rally, and will ditch these items.