F1 Turkish GP
Originally Posted by Kobe,Aug 27 2006, 05:35 PM
who actually thinks Ferrari doesn't get the rules changed by the FIA "mid season" to help them win?
remember Michelin tyre story.. when they were "declared" illegal after Hungary.. and now this damper?
the damper is quite clever.. both the flexi wings and these wheel covers by Ferrari are taking the mickey
remember Michelin tyre story.. when they were "declared" illegal after Hungary.. and now this damper?
the damper is quite clever.. both the flexi wings and these wheel covers by Ferrari are taking the mickey
Originally Posted by Bada Bing!,Aug 27 2006, 03:24 PM
If you read the judgement it clearly states that the device had a secondary function, and that had a bearing on the aerodynamics (front wing I believe).
But that seems a bit petty. After all, the suspension could be said to be to help the aerodynamics for the same reason. And for that matter, the steering, the fuel load, the driver moving his head, are all things that change dynamically during the race and affect the aerodynamics.
Can't believe Ferrari have got away with those hub caps. I hope that's banned for Monza.
Would Massa have moved over on the last lap? They've got into trouble for that before. I'm not totally sure he would have if it had happened that late.
Quite a flawed weekend for MS overall, with mistakes in his qualifying putting him on the back foot, and quite a few mistakes during the race taking the pressure off Alonso.
Pressure now really mounting on MS for last few races, esp as I think he wants to be able to retire this year as World Champion, rather than have to try and fight another year.
I think in the last few races his driving will get more and more erratic, and we will see more mistakes, and poor performances like at the end of last season - was it China last year where he was all over the shop?
Pressure now really mounting on MS for last few races, esp as I think he wants to be able to retire this year as World Champion, rather than have to try and fight another year.
I think in the last few races his driving will get more and more erratic, and we will see more mistakes, and poor performances like at the end of last season - was it China last year where he was all over the shop?
Originally Posted by AlexC,Aug 27 2006, 10:53 AM
Quite a flawed weekend for MS overall, with mistakes in his qualifying putting him on the back foot, and quite a few mistakes during the race taking the pressure off Alonso.
Pressure now really mounting on MS for last few races, esp as I think he wants to be able to retire this year as World Champion, rather than have to try and fight another year.
I think in the last few races his driving will get more and more erratic, and we will see more mistakes, and poor performances like at the end of last season - was it China last year where he was all over the shop?
Pressure now really mounting on MS for last few races, esp as I think he wants to be able to retire this year as World Champion, rather than have to try and fight another year.
I think in the last few races his driving will get more and more erratic, and we will see more mistakes, and poor performances like at the end of last season - was it China last year where he was all over the shop?
Lets not be biased here cause I believe Ferrari weren't the only ones running the hub caps, torro rosso were as well.
Originally Posted by AlexC,Aug 27 2006, 06:53 PM
Quite a flawed weekend for MS overall, with mistakes in his qualifying putting him on the back foot, and quite a few mistakes during the race taking the pressure off Alonso.
Pressure now really mounting on MS for last few races, esp as I think he wants to be able to retire this year as World Champion, rather than have to try and fight another year.
I think in the last few races his driving will get more and more erratic, and we will see more mistakes, and poor performances like at the end of last season - was it China last year where he was all over the shop?
Pressure now really mounting on MS for last few races, esp as I think he wants to be able to retire this year as World Champion, rather than have to try and fight another year.
I think in the last few races his driving will get more and more erratic, and we will see more mistakes, and poor performances like at the end of last season - was it China last year where he was all over the shop?
Had he been on pole it would have been game over - as Massa showed
Play it right and I still think MS will win the title (I'm certain Ferrari will win the constructors' anyway, which is their biggest concern)
Cock up one more time like this weekend and Alonso will ease home
ps I think MS will carry on next year regardless
Originally Posted by AlexC,Aug 27 2006, 07:53 PM
Quite a flawed weekend for MS overall, with mistakes in his qualifying putting him on the back foot, and quite a few mistakes during the race taking the pressure off Alonso.
Pressure now really mounting on MS for last few races, esp as I think he wants to be able to retire this year as World Champion, rather than have to try and fight another year.
I think in the last few races his driving will get more and more erratic, and we will see more mistakes, and poor performances like at the end of last season - was it China last year where he was all over the shop?
Pressure now really mounting on MS for last few races, esp as I think he wants to be able to retire this year as World Champion, rather than have to try and fight another year.
I think in the last few races his driving will get more and more erratic, and we will see more mistakes, and poor performances like at the end of last season - was it China last year where he was all over the shop?
His confidence has taken a battering IMO, and now he feels like he has something to prove again, hence his tactics at Monaco as he used to do against Hill, etc. He's not as cool as Kimi or even Alonso. Although watching Alonso lose it at Monaco '04, giving Ralfie the bird whilst his car was still skidding to a halt with no wheels was great.
Originally Posted by gaddafi,Aug 28 2006, 02:41 PM
(I'm certain Ferrari will win the constructors' anyway, which is their biggest concern)
for every other team on the grid (and ferrari pre MS).. than that is true..where they always want to make sure the team is perceived as being bigger than the driver.. williams, mclaren are always the ones bigging up the importance of the constructors..when in reality the fans actually remember the driver championship.
even financially for ferrari it's different with michael than any other driver to date..winning or coming 2nd in the constructors is probably a few million difference in bernie's prize fund... but the commercial spin off they get with michael winning another title will far exceed any of that..
if you believe the rumours in the F1 mags, BMW are putting together a mega bucks deal for michael to do a "farewell" year with them.. and then sign him up as a marketing machine..
Originally Posted by Kobe,Aug 28 2006, 07:27 PM
wasn't the final total 1billion if he managed to cash everything 



