Ferrari Question
Yep, BMW racing blocks were basically old M10s (the same 4-pot which powered the 2002!!!) which had been left outside for a few months.
It's one of those stories that when you hear it, you can't possibly believe that it is true... but it is!
It's one of those stories that when you hear it, you can't possibly believe that it is true... but it is!
Originally Posted by matthehat17' date='Mar 28 2007, 12:23 PM
Yep, BMW racing blocks were basically old M10s (the same 4-pot which powered the 2002!!!) which had been left outside for a few months.
It's one of those stories that when you hear it, you can't possibly believe that it is true... but it is!
It's one of those stories that when you hear it, you can't possibly believe that it is true... but it is!
when turbos are concerned.. brute strength wins over any form of engineering elegance..
there are stories of cortina engines being set in blocks of concrete running mega boosts..
Originally Posted by matthehat17' date='Mar 28 2007, 11:23 AM
Yep, BMW racing blocks were basically old M10s (the same 4-pot which powered the 2002!!!) which had been left outside for a few months.
It's one of those stories that when you hear it, you can't possibly believe that it is true... but it is!
It's one of those stories that when you hear it, you can't possibly believe that it is true... but it is!
Not a bad design, really.
The engine was originally designed as a 1,000cc for the BMW 700LS - they'd stretched the wheelbase & boot already to take it.
But it was an evil-handling deathtrap & was cancelled.
Von F was ordered to stroke the engine for the new 1500 neue Generation saloon, which would clean up once they'd taken care of the new Borgward Isabella...
Von F refused & re-scaled the entire engine at greater cost, so it would be future-proofed & not at its design limit. 3.3 lites as a six was about it.
Remember BMW was a basket case, back then.
Originally Posted by Kobe' date='Mar 28 2007, 06:07 PM
there are stories of cortina engines being set in blocks of concrete running mega boosts..
Filling up the gap between the cylinder wall and the block with resin.
Originally Posted by Nick Graves,Mar 28 2007, 06:14 PM
Alex von Falkenhausen's engine lasted from '61 until what, early nineties?
Not a bad design, really.
The engine was originally designed as a 1,000cc for the BMW 700LS - they'd stretched the wheelbase & boot already to take it.
But it was an evil-handling deathtrap & was cancelled.
Von F was ordered to stroke the engine for the new 1500 neue Generation saloon, which would clean up once they'd taken care of the new Borgward Isabella...
Von F refused & re-scaled the entire engine at greater cost, so it would be future-proofed & not at its design limit. 3.3 lites as a six was about it.
Remember BMW was a basket case, back then.
Not a bad design, really.
The engine was originally designed as a 1,000cc for the BMW 700LS - they'd stretched the wheelbase & boot already to take it.
But it was an evil-handling deathtrap & was cancelled.
Von F was ordered to stroke the engine for the new 1500 neue Generation saloon, which would clean up once they'd taken care of the new Borgward Isabella...
Von F refused & re-scaled the entire engine at greater cost, so it would be future-proofed & not at its design limit. 3.3 lites as a six was about it.
Remember BMW was a basket case, back then.
BMW was going to Mercedes, of all people, until a major board meeting in 1959, when Herbert Quandt managed to step in and buy most of the shares (with various backers). Since then, the company hasn't look back - it's still owned by the Quandt family. The M30 big-six lasted almost as long as the M10; it was still going in E34 535s!
If they were lucky; Quandt's ultimatum was:
a) his plan.
b) liquidation.
BMW were also somewhat 'assisted' when the Bremen Senate appointed BMW's CEO, Johannes Semler, to 'advise' them through the 1960/61 liquidity crisis of Borgward. He'd be unbiased, then!
The advice seemed to be to nationalise the (fully privately-owned) business (without compensation!) and to f uck around until it all was hopeless. The plans for the Frua-styled new Isabella were boxed up & sent to Munich first off!
It seems politicos have always tended to be arrogant & very stupid.
a) his plan.
b) liquidation.
BMW were also somewhat 'assisted' when the Bremen Senate appointed BMW's CEO, Johannes Semler, to 'advise' them through the 1960/61 liquidity crisis of Borgward. He'd be unbiased, then!
The advice seemed to be to nationalise the (fully privately-owned) business (without compensation!) and to f uck around until it all was hopeless. The plans for the Frua-styled new Isabella were boxed up & sent to Munich first off!
It seems politicos have always tended to be arrogant & very stupid.
Originally Posted by Nick Graves,Mar 28 2007, 02:58 AM
The BMW's small ends would visibly (!) oval during qualifying laps at 1300bhp!
I saw Piquet running a BMW turbo 'grenade' engine in qualifying at Brands back in the early 80's.....it trailed thick black smoke and looked more than a handful
Good for 1 or 2 full chat laps and then the engine block had to be thrown away - all that heat and stress undid all the 10,000's of km's of road use that went before
None of your environmentally responsible bollocks back then.
Happy days.



