The Formula 1 Thread - 2016
I think if you asked him he'd rather have had the opportunity to race and potentially reduce the gap by 7 points. There's now one less chance for him to catch up.
Nico must be kicking himself that he didn't see that Lewis was out of control and get out of the way. Because then he'd have extended his lead by 25 points.
Nico must be kicking himself that he didn't see that Lewis was out of control and get out of the way. Because then he'd have extended his lead by 25 points.
IMO - Rosberg's fault 100%
Any racing driver that has reached the pinnacle of the sport would take the opportunity to overtake car that was in less than 100% condition. This was obvious to Hamilton because of the flashing light on harvesting and the speed difference. If Lewis hadn't tried to overtake or had lifted he would have had the following cars bearing down and overtaking him.
So he had to move towards the gap with full speed - this was his only option by instinct.
Nico had made a mistake with his mode causing his slow speed - his mistake - he wasn't reacting to anybody else's mistake or accident.
Nico's first response should be to sort it out in a safe manner maintaining his line/trajectory - not to deviate. He realised that Lewis would attempt a pass and hence he moved across the circuit to obstruct - Nico should then leave a car's width. It is irrelevant if he knew exactly where Lewis was or not. An accident on a straight piece of track before a braking zone has to be caused by somebody being at fault and not a racing accident.
Such a block against a striker bearing down on goal in football would result in a red card - ie a cynical foul - and NR would have similarly been punished here if the cars had been from different teams.
If the car/drivers positions had been reversed I feel the outcome may well have been exactly the same and LH would have been at fault.
Any racing driver that has reached the pinnacle of the sport would take the opportunity to overtake car that was in less than 100% condition. This was obvious to Hamilton because of the flashing light on harvesting and the speed difference. If Lewis hadn't tried to overtake or had lifted he would have had the following cars bearing down and overtaking him.
So he had to move towards the gap with full speed - this was his only option by instinct.
Nico had made a mistake with his mode causing his slow speed - his mistake - he wasn't reacting to anybody else's mistake or accident.
Nico's first response should be to sort it out in a safe manner maintaining his line/trajectory - not to deviate. He realised that Lewis would attempt a pass and hence he moved across the circuit to obstruct - Nico should then leave a car's width. It is irrelevant if he knew exactly where Lewis was or not. An accident on a straight piece of track before a braking zone has to be caused by somebody being at fault and not a racing accident.
Such a block against a striker bearing down on goal in football would result in a red card - ie a cynical foul - and NR would have similarly been punished here if the cars had been from different teams.
If the car/drivers positions had been reversed I feel the outcome may well have been exactly the same and LH would have been at fault.
IMO - Rosberg's fault 100%
Any racing driver that has reached the pinnacle of the sport would take the opportunity to overtake car that was in less than 100% condition. This was obvious to Hamilton because of the flashing light on harvesting and the speed difference. If Lewis hadn't tried to overtake or had lifted he would have had the following cars bearing down and overtaking him.
So he had to move towards the gap with full speed - this was his only option by instinct.
Nico had made a mistake with his mode causing his slow speed - his mistake - he wasn't reacting to anybody else's mistake or accident.
Nico's first response should be to sort it out in a safe manner maintaining his line/trajectory - not to deviate. He realised that Lewis would attempt a pass and hence he moved across the circuit to obstruct - Nico should then leave a car's width. It is irrelevant if he knew exactly where Lewis was or not. An accident on a straight piece of track before a braking zone has to be caused by somebody being at fault and not a racing accident.
Such a block against a striker bearing down on goal in football would result in a red card - ie a cynical foul - and NR would have similarly been punished here if the cars had been from different teams.
If the car/drivers positions had been reversed I feel the outcome may well have been exactly the same and LH would have been at fault.
Any racing driver that has reached the pinnacle of the sport would take the opportunity to overtake car that was in less than 100% condition. This was obvious to Hamilton because of the flashing light on harvesting and the speed difference. If Lewis hadn't tried to overtake or had lifted he would have had the following cars bearing down and overtaking him.
So he had to move towards the gap with full speed - this was his only option by instinct.
Nico had made a mistake with his mode causing his slow speed - his mistake - he wasn't reacting to anybody else's mistake or accident.
Nico's first response should be to sort it out in a safe manner maintaining his line/trajectory - not to deviate. He realised that Lewis would attempt a pass and hence he moved across the circuit to obstruct - Nico should then leave a car's width. It is irrelevant if he knew exactly where Lewis was or not. An accident on a straight piece of track before a braking zone has to be caused by somebody being at fault and not a racing accident.
Such a block against a striker bearing down on goal in football would result in a red card - ie a cynical foul - and NR would have similarly been punished here if the cars had been from different teams.
If the car/drivers positions had been reversed I feel the outcome may well have been exactly the same and LH would have been at fault.
The FIA have stated that it was only for a fraction of second, but that is what this sport is all about, you can moss out on P1 by only a fraction of a second, or miss out on track position with an iffy pitstop but a fraction of a second, but you still miss out. To me, the letter of the law says who is or isn't at fault, not who is nearly at fault, or at fault, but only by a small margin.
It was a shame and hope it's not another nail in LH title bid, as the season is starting to look pretty dull already with NR big lead and someone boring (albeit effective) style.
LH fanboy? perhaps. It's a good story and he's putting GB on the motorsport map.
Another case where 99% of the 'race' is actually attrition and strategies whereas 99% of the interest is in racing for the first 4 turns on a well known difficult to pass track. Ah well. But as someone said Rosberg has a bit of backbone and won't duck challenges any more if he ever did. I expect more of the same to come as Hamilton won't go quietly into the night
Spain's always boring. But at least we had a race for the lead, although once Vestappen had got the hang of getting enough drive off the last corner Raikonnen had no chance to get past and that was that. I was certain the front two would need to pit again and therefore the real race was between Vettel and Ricciardo.
Spain's always boring. But at least we had a race for the lead, although once Vestappen had got the hang of getting enough drive off the last corner Raikonnen had no chance to get past and that was that. I was certain the front two would need to pit again and therefore the real race was between Vettel and Ricciardo.
All post-race info is available on the FIA website http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formul...information-13
Originally Posted by s2k_Nut' timestamp='1463337919' post='23967237
As I said earlier in this thread, accidents, crashes are what people want to see in motor sport, it gives the spice. This race was as dull as every other Spanish GP for the last 30 years I been watching F1, the circuit is crap and impossible (almost) to overtake, take out the first lap incident on this GP and what have you got, a procession that's what, I watch week after week hoping for some racing, and week after week it's boring.
Rosberg was 100% in the wrong, had I been a steward I would have had him at fault for causing a collision, had I been a Mercedes team boss I would have his card marked because he is out of contract next year and I would be reminding him of such, Rosberg has history of this kind of thing!
Rosberg was 100% in the wrong, had I been a steward I would have had him at fault for causing a collision, had I been a Mercedes team boss I would have his card marked because he is out of contract next year and I would be reminding him of such, Rosberg has history of this kind of thing!
Rosberg was leading, notwithstanding his slightly reduced pace, and was fully entitled to make one move to protect his position. It just so happened that Hamilton was aiming for a rapidly reducing gap.
As I said, six of one and half a dozen of another. Which the Stewards (who do, incidentally, understand motor racing, unlike some, and are provided with film footage and telemetry data not available to the event broadcasters) agreed with. A racing incident.
I know what Monaco brings, and expect it to be a borefest however, Monaco can spring surprises as it's very easy to make a mistake and crash, and what do I say people watch racing for ... yes that's right the crashes if not the 'racing'. Best races at Monaco are in the wet, the best driver of Monaco was Ayrton Senna - don't believe me watch this (FULL SCREEN)
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