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Old Jul 24, 2016 | 03:26 AM
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Still defies my logic - I don't recall the commentary saying he was that far ahead on his previous sector time.
It's quite simple, he only had to slow for one corner, which he did, and was then faster round all the others than anyone else. Admittedly, it was very opportunistic, but he's a racing driver and that's what they do.
He lifted briefly and lost 0.1 secs. How this is being prepared to stop has sort of slipped off the radar. I think that the stewards bottled it to avoid further Hamilton/Rosberg controversy.
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Old Jul 24, 2016 | 03:29 AM
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Exactly. He lifted, just like we do on the road when a hazard is perceived, i.e. preparing to stop.

Add in how quickly an F1 car can stop, I don't think it's that bit a deal, really.

Should he have slowed more? Yes, probably.
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Old Jul 24, 2016 | 07:36 AM
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Rosberg failed to cover Hamilton at the start and lost the race because of it.

Verstappen is going to cause a massive accident soon. How he didn't get done for weaving, I'll never know. Not even an investigation.
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Old Jul 24, 2016 | 11:14 AM
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Personally they should have the book thrown at them for not slowing significantly under yellows - this is Marshall safety and its f@#king selfish to only drop 0.1 second. The other problem is the example it sets. You see it filter down to club racing.
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Old Jul 24, 2016 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Ultra_Nexus
Rosberg failed to cover Hamilton at the start and lost the race because of it.

Verstappen is going to cause a massive accident soon. How he didn't get done for weaving, I'll never know. Not even an investigation.
His defending technique is interesting in the braking zone. He doesn't so much 'swerve' or 'change line' but jinks in towards the apex very early, then continues braking in straight(er) line deeper towards the apex. Right on the border of legal, but arguably not illegal. I wonder if there'll be an umpteenth 'rule clarification'...

If this many clarifications are required, the rules are crap, imo. They should take a Colin Chapman approach to the rule set and add lightness and simplify. Long overdue, tech regs and racing regs.
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Old Jul 24, 2016 | 11:43 AM
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It is hard to see lifting off and -0.1 sec as any reaction to yellow flags? But poetic justice was done with the race decided by Hamilton's excellent start and subsequently out-manoeuvring versus Rosberg's not so good start and jousting with other cars. Hamilton must feel the force is with him and Rosberg the opposite, unlike at the start of the season.

Still plenty of time left for more hissy fits though ...
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Old Jul 24, 2016 | 11:56 AM
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I'm starting to feel what a lot of others are thinking. Hamilton seemed detached from the fans today. On the driver's parade he sat up the front of the trailer with headphones on away from all the other drivers. He was really short with his answers to Jonny Herbert and hardly seemed to acknowledge his fans.
Fame really seems to have gone to his head of late. I blame hanging around with the wrong kids on the street. Aka that Muppet Bieber....

Found myself cheering on Kimi for most of the race.
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Old Jul 24, 2016 | 12:49 PM
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Personally they should have the book thrown at them for not slowing significantly under yellows - this is Marshall safety and its f@#king selfish to only drop 0.1 second. The other problem is the example it sets. You see it filter down to club racing.
Come on, they haven't been significantly slowing for years! Bianchi died because of it so they introduced the VSC.

If they really wanted to slow them down, they'd tell people a 3 second loss over your last sector time in a yellow flag zone is mandatory.
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Old Jul 24, 2016 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ultra_Nexus
If they really wanted to slow them down, they'd tell people a 3 second loss over your last sector time in a yellow flag zone is mandatory.

Like they do in WEC
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Old Jul 24, 2016 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ultra_Nexus
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Personally they should have the book thrown at them for not slowing significantly under yellows - this is Marshall safety and its f@#king selfish to only drop 0.1 second. The other problem is the example it sets. You see it filter down to club racing.
Come on, they haven't been significantly slowing for years! Bianchi died because of it so they introduced the VSC.

If they really wanted to slow them down, they'd tell people a 3 second loss over your last sector time in a yellow flag zone is mandatory.
I always felt that Mika Hakkinen's approach to yellow flags was outside of the Sporting Regulations. He would simply raise a hand to acknowledge the flag, and carried on regardless.

Obviously, such an approach would be rightly penalised upon today, and Bianchi's death was the result of a perfect storm of his being under pressure to make up time (or more likely to not lose time) under yellows in very adverse conditions.

I missed most of this weekend's activities as I was busy having a life. I don't think I missed much - Hungary isn't noted for providing much in the way of actual racing. Interesting comment on Hamilton's demeanour on the track parade - he usually distances himself from the other drivers, but not to the degree described. I'm not sure what he's hoping to achieve.
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