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Old Aug 4, 2016 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dembo
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Hamilton on the other hand is very capable of having his 'head in the right place' at key moments .... do you remember this 'Lewis, you need to let Nico past ....' Hamilton '.... I am not slowing down for Nico ....' .... that is the clarity of thinking at key moments that makes Hamilton a more complete driver than Rosberg and why Rosberg cannot beat Lewis.
Refusing to move over is hardly clarity of thinking.

I think Rosberg feels like he's the good brother; the one that does everything right and resents that the more badly behaved, sulky, more demanding sibling gets the attention and success. And then he thinks "well why shouldn't I misbehave too?".

They're pretty much even in reality as the results show, with only tiny differences meaning that one comes out on top. Rosberg would have won the last two races had he got a better start, which could have been said of Hamilton earlier in the year. Hamilton's won 6 out of the last 7 races, but he was nowhere in Baku, whereas Rosberg won 7 races in a row. If you look at pole positions this year it's 6:5 to Hamilton; if you look at fastest laps it's 5:2 to Rosberg.
Your very obvious dislike of Hamilton is clouding your view Dembo, and just as with your preferred Merc racing driver it's affecting your judgement also.
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Old Aug 4, 2016 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by lovegroova
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Aus: Hamilton
Bah: Hamilton
Chi: Rosberg - Hamilton engine failure
Rus: Rosberg - Hamilton engine failure
Spain: Hamilton
Monaco: Rosberg - Hamilton engine problems
Canada: Hamilton
Baku: Rosberg - Hamilton crashed his Merc of his own accord.
Austria: Hamilton - Rosberg suspension failure (p3) and gearbox penalty and rear BBW failure in the race
GB: Hamilton - Rosberg engine problems in P2. He had to wait till the race to get his gearbox failure
Hungary: Rosberg - Yellowflag-gate
Germany: Rosberg - Rosberg throttle electronics issue

I thought it was fair to include the technical failures Rosberg doesn't have

Infact, since Spain, Lewis has been 100% mechanical trouble free. Rosberg definitely hasn't.
Monaco was after Spain, and Hamilton had problems there, so that's not a fact at all!

None of what you said actually makes any difference to the qualifying score, apart from perhaps Austria.

Even if you discount Austria, it's still 5-2 to Hamilton in qualifying when neither has experienced a technical problem.
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Old Aug 4, 2016 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by arsie
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... imagine if Mercedes (Like Maclaren did before) employed Alonso alongside Hamilton... where the mental faculties are not so fragile ... carnage for the team .... no team wants a Prost-Senna pairing for exactly these reasons.
McLaren

(as I have recently learned )

But good couple of posts, imc27 and s2k_nut
Bloody McLaren

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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 01:54 AM
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Might be an interesting race this weekend with Hamilton likely to take grid penalties, although unfortunately it looks like the weather will be rather un-Spa-like which will spoil the fun a bit.

I wonder if the Honda engines will survive the Kemmel Straight?
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by lovegroova
Might be an interesting race this weekend with Hamilton likely to take grid penalties, although unfortunately it looks like the weather will be rather un-Spa-like which will spoil the fun a bit.

I wonder if the Honda engines will survive the Kemmel Straight?
Can anybody else remember the Toyota engines grenading on the Kemmel Straight a few years ago, apparently as a result of oil surge through Eau Rouge?

I saw the news about Hamilton taking a couple of new components this weekend, as Spa and Monza will minimise the pain of grid penalties. The Mercedes seems to have more than enough of an advantage at the moment, with Red Bull likely to be their closest challengers unless Ferrari have found some speed from somewhere.

The only other news isn't really news as such, as it had been anticipated - Esteban Ocon will be in the second Manor for the remainder of the season as Rio Haryanto's money has run out.

Tyre choice seems to vary more at Spa than other circuits - the Ferraris, for example, have only opted for one set of Mediums, preferring more sets of Soft and Supersoft.

Spa does have a habit of throwing up some surprise results, such are the variables of weather and strategy, so we may hopefully see an interesting race.
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 08:30 AM
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I think Jost Capito (VW Rally boss) finally joins McLaren this weekend ...
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 11:17 AM
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I think Jost Capito (VW Rally boss) finally joins McLaren this weekend ...
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by lovegroova
Might be an interesting race this weekend with Hamilton likely to take grid penalties, although unfortunately it looks like the weather will be rather un-Spa-like which will spoil the fun a bit.

I wonder if the Honda engines will survive the Kemmel Straight?
5th gear no doubt will be terminal for them
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ultra_Nexus
Originally Posted by lovegroova' timestamp='1472118847' post='24047277
Might be an interesting race this weekend with Hamilton likely to take grid penalties, although unfortunately it looks like the weather will be rather un-Spa-like which will spoil the fun a bit.

I wonder if the Honda engines will survive the Kemmel Straight?
5th gear no doubt will be terminal for them
I heard on Sky yesterday that Honda will be using a completely redesigned engine next year.

No surprise there.
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Old Aug 26, 2016 | 12:07 AM
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Interesting about those Toyota engines imc27. Just Googled and in the light of lovegroova's heroic Kemmel Straight engine "kicking a leg out of bed" incident, I've got quite a bit of mileage out of the fact that there is such a thing as "Spa specific" engine failure. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/124673

I've never followed F1 but since visiting Spa in July with lovegroova, CaptA and Sazzy I've developed a Spa specific interest in it. the place.
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