Fuel prices
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I see you like driving! Please pay me 70% duty on all your petrol! Don't worry we'll reinvest it on the roads so its fine! Naah, just kidding, we'll spend it all on benefit skanks and imigrants. Maybe fight a couple of pointless wars with it. Actually, while you're at it can you pay me some VAT on your mandatory, over-inflated insurance policy? And those parts for your car, stick some tax on those too. Also every 12 months could you pay us another lump sum for "road tax"? This WILL get spent on the roads, honest! Actually, nope, there's some bankers we need to bail out so go f@#k yourself.
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Originally Posted by Polemicist' timestamp='1332857821' post='21547790
Honda of course could be in the game immediately with a reissue of the generation one Insight; even by today's standards it is still advanced.
I guess the main obstacle to hybrids and electric cars really becoming more popular are the high purchase prices relative to the fuel savings, along with uncertain 2nd hand values (especially for electric cars)
The same goes for the likes of the VAG Bluemotion models which command a premium far in excess of the savings that could be made over a regular version.
Interestingly, the Up weighs 130kg more than an equivalent Toyota Aygo. The Up has lower CO2, but higher fuel consumption figures.
The Up yer VAG's figures are interesting & suggest how performance is fudged in order to get good 'official' numbers. Always a complaint about the IMA was that its real-world performance tends to be better than the figures suggest, which is not always the case with its (GM) rivals.
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Originally Posted by Ultra_Nexus' timestamp='1332891489' post='21549948
Oil is not at record prices.
However, our currency is very weak against the US Dollar and that is what oil is traded in.
However, our currency is very weak against the US Dollar and that is what oil is traded in.
There are active moves to shift the middle east away from the $ as a trading 'standard'.
This is already happening.
And why USA will likely be a third world country by 20yrs.
Probably the 'real' reason for WW3.
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You know - those twats who work for the council cocking everything up and so creating jobs for other departments (in the council)
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Originally Posted by KingRevo' timestamp='1333016513' post='21555046
I see you like driving! Please pay me 70% duty on all your petrol! Don't worry we'll reinvest it on the roads so its fine! Naah, just kidding, we'll spend it all on benefit skanks and imigrants.
You know - those twats who work for the council cocking everything up and so creating jobs for other departments (in the council)
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It WILL be 1.80 before the year is out, it's only a matter of time and as much as I love driving ... at that point I will downsize to something small and nasty with cheap tyres, micro insurance costs and that will do 9 million miles to a 10th of a gallon of fuel.
This is what the government don't realise is that by pricing people off the road, there is a whole sector of business that will lose a lot of custom as people switch away from luxurious to frugal and basic.
This is what the government don't realise is that by pricing people off the road, there is a whole sector of business that will lose a lot of custom as people switch away from luxurious to frugal and basic.
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It WILL be 1.80 before the year is out, it's only a matter of time and as much as I love driving ... at that point I will downsize to something small and nasty with cheap tyres, micro insurance costs and that will do 9 million miles to a 10th of a gallon of fuel.
This is what the government don't realise is that by pricing people off the road, there is a whole sector of business that will lose a lot of custom as people switch away from luxurious to frugal and basic.
This is what the government don't realise is that by pricing people off the road, there is a whole sector of business that will lose a lot of custom as people switch away from luxurious to frugal and basic.
Driving in this country is more of a necessity as having it as a hobby is for the rich now IMO.
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and when everyone is in a 999cc car with tiny emissions
the tax will soar - on the vehicles and on fuel
it has already started...note the unpublicised change to the benefit in kind taxation tucked away in the small print of the last budget
the tax will soar - on the vehicles and on fuel
it has already started...note the unpublicised change to the benefit in kind taxation tucked away in the small print of the last budget
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Yep there are two solutions.
1. Earn so much you don't ever have to care.
2. Live so close to work / shops that you can walk to both.
Actually, 2 is beginning to appeal irrespective of 1.
From my own perspective, the money i'd earmarked for tinkering this year has been put to one side for insurance and general running costs but it's not going to last forever. If i want to live out in the sticks then I need to drive to work. If that means this car has to go in order that I can afford to live where i do and still get to work and back then so be it.
The problem with the likes of the Aygo / iQ is that there is absolutely ZERO driving appeal
edit: But as has been discussed, there's not a lot of appeal left in driving on the roads no matter what you drive so maybe it's a moot point.
1. Earn so much you don't ever have to care.
2. Live so close to work / shops that you can walk to both.
Actually, 2 is beginning to appeal irrespective of 1.
From my own perspective, the money i'd earmarked for tinkering this year has been put to one side for insurance and general running costs but it's not going to last forever. If i want to live out in the sticks then I need to drive to work. If that means this car has to go in order that I can afford to live where i do and still get to work and back then so be it.
The problem with the likes of the Aygo / iQ is that there is absolutely ZERO driving appeal
edit: But as has been discussed, there's not a lot of appeal left in driving on the roads no matter what you drive so maybe it's a moot point.