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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 01:38 AM
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hi all to everyone going to superbikes at knockhill today go easy guys i just witnessed a young rider coming of his bike on the m8 last night and then being hit by passing cars which has resulted in the death of a young man and not a pretty thing to see so guys lets's GO EASY TODAY
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 06:15 AM
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So sad to hear. Lets hope there are no more accidents.
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 10:07 AM
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Hears this on the news as I was heading for knockhill today.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 07:17 AM
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just heard that the young man who died on saturday only passed his test 3 weeks ago some fast track thingy imo the goverment should stop this these young bikers are allowed to go out on the road on very powerful bikes with about 3/4 weeks trainning. just wondering if anybody hear agrees with me on this one ?
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 07:26 AM
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I would like to agree with you, but unfortunatley you are in danger of being "big brother", telling the general public whats good for them. And look where that is getting the government right now, too many fricking rules! I personally don't have an issue with the fast-track course, I did one in Sept.

A lot is down to the responsibility of the individual and generally the younger riders take more risks. Did you see how many bikers went out with just t-shirts and shorts over the scorching last week?!!

Its sad, and you don't want to hear about these stories, but they are going to happen.

Perhaps the way forward is to up the age for unrestricted bikes to 25?
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 07:43 AM
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yeah think that would be a good idea or you must have the part one licence for at least 4 years to get some road experience before you are allowed to sit the test for part 2
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 07:55 AM
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Trouble is its not necessarily the faster bikes that are the problem.
Followed a youngster home last night, jeans, trainers and a coat with helmet on a moped type thing / small motorbike, not sure exactly what it was.

We passed a bus stop on the opposite side of the road, he turns round, stares at the girls and proceeds another 20 feet towards pedestrian lights not looking where he is going, then ignores the changing lights and races through, swerving round a bicycle, up to a mini roundabout where he ignores the car crossing him and cuts it up, proceeding the short distance to the next roundabout where he does the same, followed by a similar incident on the next roundabout where he overtakes a car by going straight at the mini roundabout, and moving onto the other lane which has stopped traffic so finish his overtake manoeuvre.

The speeds involved are 20-30 max but still at this speed with the reckless abandon he showed and no form of comeback, unless the Police are actually watching and facing in the right direction to give chase what can we do

Giving them faster bikes just guarantees they are going to come a cropper, but having a slower bike does not make them ride any safer.

Same applies to cars.

They have no concept of obligation to other road users or any thought of consequences. Not sure there is an answer to this without a change in attitudes.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 07:58 AM
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Sad news.

As has been said, it's not fast bikes that are the problem.

People need to be sensible.

I, along with others here, hopped straight onto fast bikes immediately after passing our tests. I have not had any problems because I know when to use the power, and when to be sensible.

Besides, you don't know what happened in this case.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by san2000,Jul 7 2009, 03:58 PM
it's not fast bikes that are the problem.

People need to be sensible.

I, along with others here, hopped straight onto fast bikes immediately after passing our tests. I have not had any problems because I know when to use the power, and when to be sensible.


Too many idiots, that's the problem. I hoped onto fast bikes at a young age, and touchwood have never been in an accident to date.

Someone who is older than I, bought a Hayabusa having only ridden a Bandit 600 for 12 months came off...twice. Another, significantly older friend, wrote off his Triumph hitting a stationary car.

Restricting licences is not the way to go, as it is would be prejudiced to those who are good bikers. This is the same reason why I detest how insurers come up with quotes.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 04:19 AM
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IIRC there are proposals to increase the Direct Access age limit to 25.

I don't think it is a younger rider issue in particular - just more stringent and regular training is required.
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